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Over the last week, there is a constant barrage of authentication failures to my email account from a variety of ip addresses - usually in blocks of exactly 575 attempts.
My password is as strong as a password can be so the chance of brute force winning is infinitesimal. However as a result of the authentication failures, my hosting provider keeps locking the email account.
Is there anything I can do (or that I can ask my hosting provider to do), or am I just screwed until the botnet moves on? Anyone with similar experience who can comment on whether I can expect this to ever end?
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Over the last week, there is a constant barrage of authentication failures to my email account from a variety of ip addresses - usually in blocks of exactly 575 attempts.
My password is as strong as a password can be so the chance of brute force winning is infinitesimal. However as a result of the authentication failures, my hosting provider keeps locking the email account.
Is there anything I can do (or that I can ask my hosting provider to do), or am I just screwed until the botnet moves on? Anyone with similar experience who can comment on whether I can expect this to ever end?
email botnet
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Ask your email provider to make a change, that's the only options. In the meantime, open a new account and forward all emails to your new account so that you are still functional?
– schroeder♦
8 hours ago
1
Are you using one of the big email providers (Gmail, etc) or something smaller?
– Anders
6 hours ago
If you're using Gmail, you might try setting up a second account and granting it delegate access. That might at least allow you to check your e-mail when the account gets locked, if Gmail doesn't also block delegates when locking.
– jpmc26
3 hours ago
Get a better provider that isn't so vulnerable to this kind of trivial DoS?
– Nate Eldredge
47 mins ago
add a comment |
Over the last week, there is a constant barrage of authentication failures to my email account from a variety of ip addresses - usually in blocks of exactly 575 attempts.
My password is as strong as a password can be so the chance of brute force winning is infinitesimal. However as a result of the authentication failures, my hosting provider keeps locking the email account.
Is there anything I can do (or that I can ask my hosting provider to do), or am I just screwed until the botnet moves on? Anyone with similar experience who can comment on whether I can expect this to ever end?
email botnet
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Over the last week, there is a constant barrage of authentication failures to my email account from a variety of ip addresses - usually in blocks of exactly 575 attempts.
My password is as strong as a password can be so the chance of brute force winning is infinitesimal. However as a result of the authentication failures, my hosting provider keeps locking the email account.
Is there anything I can do (or that I can ask my hosting provider to do), or am I just screwed until the botnet moves on? Anyone with similar experience who can comment on whether I can expect this to ever end?
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email botnet
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6
Ask your email provider to make a change, that's the only options. In the meantime, open a new account and forward all emails to your new account so that you are still functional?
– schroeder♦
8 hours ago
1
Are you using one of the big email providers (Gmail, etc) or something smaller?
– Anders
6 hours ago
If you're using Gmail, you might try setting up a second account and granting it delegate access. That might at least allow you to check your e-mail when the account gets locked, if Gmail doesn't also block delegates when locking.
– jpmc26
3 hours ago
Get a better provider that isn't so vulnerable to this kind of trivial DoS?
– Nate Eldredge
47 mins ago
add a comment |
6
Ask your email provider to make a change, that's the only options. In the meantime, open a new account and forward all emails to your new account so that you are still functional?
– schroeder♦
8 hours ago
1
Are you using one of the big email providers (Gmail, etc) or something smaller?
– Anders
6 hours ago
If you're using Gmail, you might try setting up a second account and granting it delegate access. That might at least allow you to check your e-mail when the account gets locked, if Gmail doesn't also block delegates when locking.
– jpmc26
3 hours ago
Get a better provider that isn't so vulnerable to this kind of trivial DoS?
– Nate Eldredge
47 mins ago
6
6
Ask your email provider to make a change, that's the only options. In the meantime, open a new account and forward all emails to your new account so that you are still functional?
– schroeder♦
8 hours ago
Ask your email provider to make a change, that's the only options. In the meantime, open a new account and forward all emails to your new account so that you are still functional?
– schroeder♦
8 hours ago
1
1
Are you using one of the big email providers (Gmail, etc) or something smaller?
– Anders
6 hours ago
Are you using one of the big email providers (Gmail, etc) or something smaller?
– Anders
6 hours ago
If you're using Gmail, you might try setting up a second account and granting it delegate access. That might at least allow you to check your e-mail when the account gets locked, if Gmail doesn't also block delegates when locking.
– jpmc26
3 hours ago
If you're using Gmail, you might try setting up a second account and granting it delegate access. That might at least allow you to check your e-mail when the account gets locked, if Gmail doesn't also block delegates when locking.
– jpmc26
3 hours ago
Get a better provider that isn't so vulnerable to this kind of trivial DoS?
– Nate Eldredge
47 mins ago
Get a better provider that isn't so vulnerable to this kind of trivial DoS?
– Nate Eldredge
47 mins ago
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No. That's pretty much the background noise of being on the internet.
From a random server I have with e-mail:
$ sudo grep -c "auth failed" /var/log/mail.log
1109
That's today. It's with fail2ban blocking more than five attempts from the same IP.
1
This is not the same thing. He is referring to one specific account, not the complete authentication log for a mailserver. This is attempts at one specific user.
– John Keates
2 hours ago
add a comment |
A few thoughts:
- Usually my first recommendation would be to pick an extremely strong password. But you allready got that covered.
- If there is two factor authentication available, turn it on. If you are lucky, it might make you an unattractive target and cause the attacker to move on.
- If the account lock out doesn't affect other methods of reading your mail, like via IMAP, you could switch to that to maintain access. (To be honest, I don't know much about the security of IMAP, so you might want to consider that before turning it on.)
- Forwarding the mail somewhere else will also ensure that you can read it even if your account is locked.
- Finally, you can try contacting your email provider. I think your best bet here is to just describe the problem to them, and ask what they can do to help you.
1
Would 2FA really help? The second factor isn't usually attemped until after a correct password is entered, and the attacker will never get that far.
– Barmar
4 hours ago
What makes you think he's not already using IMAP?
– Barmar
4 hours ago
@Barmar I say "if you are lucky" for a reason. If the attacker, either a human or a bot, can detect that 2FA is on, it might give up. Or not. At least it don't hurt.
– Anders
4 hours ago
@Barmar As for IMAP: Sure, OP might be, then I guess you can just reverse it and try the webmail instead. The point is "use another method".
– Anders
4 hours ago
1
@Barmar If the attacker's script isn't written to try to enter anything on the second factor, it might prevent the lock out. Worth a try at least.
– jpmc26
3 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
Yeah, it's pretty easy to have your official email address forward your emails to a new "burner" email account. Then in the new email account setup, you set your From: field to your official email address. That way mails go out like this.
From: account-I-always-had@oldserver.com
Subject: Re: so-and-so
In-Reply-To: <4735813474834434634@theirmail.com>
Sender: burneraccount@newserver.com
Or something like that.
Anyway, that lets you keep your identity at the official email address. The attacks on the login server are irrelevant to receiving and forwarding email.
As is evident from the above, your new email address may be obvious from headers so don't set up an autoresponder. Only correspond with people you trust. If this burner email account comes under attack, trash this burner account, setup another one, and tell the official email server to forward to the new burner.
Then, research who you sent mail to in the last 2 days to the last burner account. One of them compromised it. Use one tactic or another to trick them into attacking this or another burner account, that lets you distinguish who exactly did it.
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No. That's pretty much the background noise of being on the internet.
From a random server I have with e-mail:
$ sudo grep -c "auth failed" /var/log/mail.log
1109
That's today. It's with fail2ban blocking more than five attempts from the same IP.
1
This is not the same thing. He is referring to one specific account, not the complete authentication log for a mailserver. This is attempts at one specific user.
– John Keates
2 hours ago
add a comment |
No. That's pretty much the background noise of being on the internet.
From a random server I have with e-mail:
$ sudo grep -c "auth failed" /var/log/mail.log
1109
That's today. It's with fail2ban blocking more than five attempts from the same IP.
1
This is not the same thing. He is referring to one specific account, not the complete authentication log for a mailserver. This is attempts at one specific user.
– John Keates
2 hours ago
add a comment |
No. That's pretty much the background noise of being on the internet.
From a random server I have with e-mail:
$ sudo grep -c "auth failed" /var/log/mail.log
1109
That's today. It's with fail2ban blocking more than five attempts from the same IP.
No. That's pretty much the background noise of being on the internet.
From a random server I have with e-mail:
$ sudo grep -c "auth failed" /var/log/mail.log
1109
That's today. It's with fail2ban blocking more than five attempts from the same IP.
answered 6 hours ago
vidarlovidarlo
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3,586723
1
This is not the same thing. He is referring to one specific account, not the complete authentication log for a mailserver. This is attempts at one specific user.
– John Keates
2 hours ago
add a comment |
1
This is not the same thing. He is referring to one specific account, not the complete authentication log for a mailserver. This is attempts at one specific user.
– John Keates
2 hours ago
1
1
This is not the same thing. He is referring to one specific account, not the complete authentication log for a mailserver. This is attempts at one specific user.
– John Keates
2 hours ago
This is not the same thing. He is referring to one specific account, not the complete authentication log for a mailserver. This is attempts at one specific user.
– John Keates
2 hours ago
add a comment |
A few thoughts:
- Usually my first recommendation would be to pick an extremely strong password. But you allready got that covered.
- If there is two factor authentication available, turn it on. If you are lucky, it might make you an unattractive target and cause the attacker to move on.
- If the account lock out doesn't affect other methods of reading your mail, like via IMAP, you could switch to that to maintain access. (To be honest, I don't know much about the security of IMAP, so you might want to consider that before turning it on.)
- Forwarding the mail somewhere else will also ensure that you can read it even if your account is locked.
- Finally, you can try contacting your email provider. I think your best bet here is to just describe the problem to them, and ask what they can do to help you.
1
Would 2FA really help? The second factor isn't usually attemped until after a correct password is entered, and the attacker will never get that far.
– Barmar
4 hours ago
What makes you think he's not already using IMAP?
– Barmar
4 hours ago
@Barmar I say "if you are lucky" for a reason. If the attacker, either a human or a bot, can detect that 2FA is on, it might give up. Or not. At least it don't hurt.
– Anders
4 hours ago
@Barmar As for IMAP: Sure, OP might be, then I guess you can just reverse it and try the webmail instead. The point is "use another method".
– Anders
4 hours ago
1
@Barmar If the attacker's script isn't written to try to enter anything on the second factor, it might prevent the lock out. Worth a try at least.
– jpmc26
3 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
A few thoughts:
- Usually my first recommendation would be to pick an extremely strong password. But you allready got that covered.
- If there is two factor authentication available, turn it on. If you are lucky, it might make you an unattractive target and cause the attacker to move on.
- If the account lock out doesn't affect other methods of reading your mail, like via IMAP, you could switch to that to maintain access. (To be honest, I don't know much about the security of IMAP, so you might want to consider that before turning it on.)
- Forwarding the mail somewhere else will also ensure that you can read it even if your account is locked.
- Finally, you can try contacting your email provider. I think your best bet here is to just describe the problem to them, and ask what they can do to help you.
1
Would 2FA really help? The second factor isn't usually attemped until after a correct password is entered, and the attacker will never get that far.
– Barmar
4 hours ago
What makes you think he's not already using IMAP?
– Barmar
4 hours ago
@Barmar I say "if you are lucky" for a reason. If the attacker, either a human or a bot, can detect that 2FA is on, it might give up. Or not. At least it don't hurt.
– Anders
4 hours ago
@Barmar As for IMAP: Sure, OP might be, then I guess you can just reverse it and try the webmail instead. The point is "use another method".
– Anders
4 hours ago
1
@Barmar If the attacker's script isn't written to try to enter anything on the second factor, it might prevent the lock out. Worth a try at least.
– jpmc26
3 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
A few thoughts:
- Usually my first recommendation would be to pick an extremely strong password. But you allready got that covered.
- If there is two factor authentication available, turn it on. If you are lucky, it might make you an unattractive target and cause the attacker to move on.
- If the account lock out doesn't affect other methods of reading your mail, like via IMAP, you could switch to that to maintain access. (To be honest, I don't know much about the security of IMAP, so you might want to consider that before turning it on.)
- Forwarding the mail somewhere else will also ensure that you can read it even if your account is locked.
- Finally, you can try contacting your email provider. I think your best bet here is to just describe the problem to them, and ask what they can do to help you.
A few thoughts:
- Usually my first recommendation would be to pick an extremely strong password. But you allready got that covered.
- If there is two factor authentication available, turn it on. If you are lucky, it might make you an unattractive target and cause the attacker to move on.
- If the account lock out doesn't affect other methods of reading your mail, like via IMAP, you could switch to that to maintain access. (To be honest, I don't know much about the security of IMAP, so you might want to consider that before turning it on.)
- Forwarding the mail somewhere else will also ensure that you can read it even if your account is locked.
- Finally, you can try contacting your email provider. I think your best bet here is to just describe the problem to them, and ask what they can do to help you.
answered 6 hours ago
AndersAnders
49.9k22143165
49.9k22143165
1
Would 2FA really help? The second factor isn't usually attemped until after a correct password is entered, and the attacker will never get that far.
– Barmar
4 hours ago
What makes you think he's not already using IMAP?
– Barmar
4 hours ago
@Barmar I say "if you are lucky" for a reason. If the attacker, either a human or a bot, can detect that 2FA is on, it might give up. Or not. At least it don't hurt.
– Anders
4 hours ago
@Barmar As for IMAP: Sure, OP might be, then I guess you can just reverse it and try the webmail instead. The point is "use another method".
– Anders
4 hours ago
1
@Barmar If the attacker's script isn't written to try to enter anything on the second factor, it might prevent the lock out. Worth a try at least.
– jpmc26
3 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
1
Would 2FA really help? The second factor isn't usually attemped until after a correct password is entered, and the attacker will never get that far.
– Barmar
4 hours ago
What makes you think he's not already using IMAP?
– Barmar
4 hours ago
@Barmar I say "if you are lucky" for a reason. If the attacker, either a human or a bot, can detect that 2FA is on, it might give up. Or not. At least it don't hurt.
– Anders
4 hours ago
@Barmar As for IMAP: Sure, OP might be, then I guess you can just reverse it and try the webmail instead. The point is "use another method".
– Anders
4 hours ago
1
@Barmar If the attacker's script isn't written to try to enter anything on the second factor, it might prevent the lock out. Worth a try at least.
– jpmc26
3 hours ago
1
1
Would 2FA really help? The second factor isn't usually attemped until after a correct password is entered, and the attacker will never get that far.
– Barmar
4 hours ago
Would 2FA really help? The second factor isn't usually attemped until after a correct password is entered, and the attacker will never get that far.
– Barmar
4 hours ago
What makes you think he's not already using IMAP?
– Barmar
4 hours ago
What makes you think he's not already using IMAP?
– Barmar
4 hours ago
@Barmar I say "if you are lucky" for a reason. If the attacker, either a human or a bot, can detect that 2FA is on, it might give up. Or not. At least it don't hurt.
– Anders
4 hours ago
@Barmar I say "if you are lucky" for a reason. If the attacker, either a human or a bot, can detect that 2FA is on, it might give up. Or not. At least it don't hurt.
– Anders
4 hours ago
@Barmar As for IMAP: Sure, OP might be, then I guess you can just reverse it and try the webmail instead. The point is "use another method".
– Anders
4 hours ago
@Barmar As for IMAP: Sure, OP might be, then I guess you can just reverse it and try the webmail instead. The point is "use another method".
– Anders
4 hours ago
1
1
@Barmar If the attacker's script isn't written to try to enter anything on the second factor, it might prevent the lock out. Worth a try at least.
– jpmc26
3 hours ago
@Barmar If the attacker's script isn't written to try to enter anything on the second factor, it might prevent the lock out. Worth a try at least.
– jpmc26
3 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
Yeah, it's pretty easy to have your official email address forward your emails to a new "burner" email account. Then in the new email account setup, you set your From: field to your official email address. That way mails go out like this.
From: account-I-always-had@oldserver.com
Subject: Re: so-and-so
In-Reply-To: <4735813474834434634@theirmail.com>
Sender: burneraccount@newserver.com
Or something like that.
Anyway, that lets you keep your identity at the official email address. The attacks on the login server are irrelevant to receiving and forwarding email.
As is evident from the above, your new email address may be obvious from headers so don't set up an autoresponder. Only correspond with people you trust. If this burner email account comes under attack, trash this burner account, setup another one, and tell the official email server to forward to the new burner.
Then, research who you sent mail to in the last 2 days to the last burner account. One of them compromised it. Use one tactic or another to trick them into attacking this or another burner account, that lets you distinguish who exactly did it.
add a comment |
Yeah, it's pretty easy to have your official email address forward your emails to a new "burner" email account. Then in the new email account setup, you set your From: field to your official email address. That way mails go out like this.
From: account-I-always-had@oldserver.com
Subject: Re: so-and-so
In-Reply-To: <4735813474834434634@theirmail.com>
Sender: burneraccount@newserver.com
Or something like that.
Anyway, that lets you keep your identity at the official email address. The attacks on the login server are irrelevant to receiving and forwarding email.
As is evident from the above, your new email address may be obvious from headers so don't set up an autoresponder. Only correspond with people you trust. If this burner email account comes under attack, trash this burner account, setup another one, and tell the official email server to forward to the new burner.
Then, research who you sent mail to in the last 2 days to the last burner account. One of them compromised it. Use one tactic or another to trick them into attacking this or another burner account, that lets you distinguish who exactly did it.
add a comment |
Yeah, it's pretty easy to have your official email address forward your emails to a new "burner" email account. Then in the new email account setup, you set your From: field to your official email address. That way mails go out like this.
From: account-I-always-had@oldserver.com
Subject: Re: so-and-so
In-Reply-To: <4735813474834434634@theirmail.com>
Sender: burneraccount@newserver.com
Or something like that.
Anyway, that lets you keep your identity at the official email address. The attacks on the login server are irrelevant to receiving and forwarding email.
As is evident from the above, your new email address may be obvious from headers so don't set up an autoresponder. Only correspond with people you trust. If this burner email account comes under attack, trash this burner account, setup another one, and tell the official email server to forward to the new burner.
Then, research who you sent mail to in the last 2 days to the last burner account. One of them compromised it. Use one tactic or another to trick them into attacking this or another burner account, that lets you distinguish who exactly did it.
Yeah, it's pretty easy to have your official email address forward your emails to a new "burner" email account. Then in the new email account setup, you set your From: field to your official email address. That way mails go out like this.
From: account-I-always-had@oldserver.com
Subject: Re: so-and-so
In-Reply-To: <4735813474834434634@theirmail.com>
Sender: burneraccount@newserver.com
Or something like that.
Anyway, that lets you keep your identity at the official email address. The attacks on the login server are irrelevant to receiving and forwarding email.
As is evident from the above, your new email address may be obvious from headers so don't set up an autoresponder. Only correspond with people you trust. If this burner email account comes under attack, trash this burner account, setup another one, and tell the official email server to forward to the new burner.
Then, research who you sent mail to in the last 2 days to the last burner account. One of them compromised it. Use one tactic or another to trick them into attacking this or another burner account, that lets you distinguish who exactly did it.
answered 4 hours ago
HarperHarper
2,050413
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Ask your email provider to make a change, that's the only options. In the meantime, open a new account and forward all emails to your new account so that you are still functional?
– schroeder♦
8 hours ago
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Are you using one of the big email providers (Gmail, etc) or something smaller?
– Anders
6 hours ago
If you're using Gmail, you might try setting up a second account and granting it delegate access. That might at least allow you to check your e-mail when the account gets locked, if Gmail doesn't also block delegates when locking.
– jpmc26
3 hours ago
Get a better provider that isn't so vulnerable to this kind of trivial DoS?
– Nate Eldredge
47 mins ago