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Why does not log transformation make the data normalized?


How to approach the numer.ai competition with anonymous scaled numerical predictors?What does normalizing and mean centering data do?TFLearn Does Not Load ModelWhy `max_features=n_features` does not make the Random Forest independent of number of trees?Am I doing a log transformation of data correctly?Why this model does not converge in keras?How standardizing and/or log transformation affect prediction result in machine learning modelsWhat is the reason behind taking log transformation of few continuous variables?why tsne plot can not show all the labels













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Having some skewed features as shown in the following figure. I am trying to imply log transformation to the feature called vBMD(mgHA/cm3). I run the following codes



Distribution Plots




import numpy as np



import pandas as pd



from sklearn.preprocessing import MinMaxScaler



df=pd.read_csv("Data.csv")



scaler=MinMaxScaler(feature_range=(0,1))



df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']=scaler.fit_transform(np.array(df['vBMD
(mgHA/cm3)']).reshape(-1,1))



df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']=np.log(np.array(df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']))




After the transfromation, I have got the following result.
After transformation



While I am waiting that the feature will be normalized, its skewness increased. Thus, what am I doing wrong?










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    Having some skewed features as shown in the following figure. I am trying to imply log transformation to the feature called vBMD(mgHA/cm3). I run the following codes



    Distribution Plots




    import numpy as np



    import pandas as pd



    from sklearn.preprocessing import MinMaxScaler



    df=pd.read_csv("Data.csv")



    scaler=MinMaxScaler(feature_range=(0,1))



    df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']=scaler.fit_transform(np.array(df['vBMD
    (mgHA/cm3)']).reshape(-1,1))



    df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']=np.log(np.array(df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']))




    After the transfromation, I have got the following result.
    After transformation



    While I am waiting that the feature will be normalized, its skewness increased. Thus, what am I doing wrong?










    share|improve this question









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      Having some skewed features as shown in the following figure. I am trying to imply log transformation to the feature called vBMD(mgHA/cm3). I run the following codes



      Distribution Plots




      import numpy as np



      import pandas as pd



      from sklearn.preprocessing import MinMaxScaler



      df=pd.read_csv("Data.csv")



      scaler=MinMaxScaler(feature_range=(0,1))



      df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']=scaler.fit_transform(np.array(df['vBMD
      (mgHA/cm3)']).reshape(-1,1))



      df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']=np.log(np.array(df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']))




      After the transfromation, I have got the following result.
      After transformation



      While I am waiting that the feature will be normalized, its skewness increased. Thus, what am I doing wrong?










      share|improve this question









      $endgroup$




      Having some skewed features as shown in the following figure. I am trying to imply log transformation to the feature called vBMD(mgHA/cm3). I run the following codes



      Distribution Plots




      import numpy as np



      import pandas as pd



      from sklearn.preprocessing import MinMaxScaler



      df=pd.read_csv("Data.csv")



      scaler=MinMaxScaler(feature_range=(0,1))



      df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']=scaler.fit_transform(np.array(df['vBMD
      (mgHA/cm3)']).reshape(-1,1))



      df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']=np.log(np.array(df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']))




      After the transfromation, I have got the following result.
      After transformation



      While I am waiting that the feature will be normalized, its skewness increased. Thus, what am I doing wrong?







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          Log transformation leads to a normal distribution only for log-normal distributions. Not all distributions are log-normal, meaning they will not become normal after the log transformation.



          EDIT:



          As you have commented, if you are trying to convert an arbitrary distribution to normal, methods like QuantileTransformer can be used. But note that these transformations make a distribution normal by changing (destroying) some information from the original data.






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            Thanks a lot. I figure out the main idea. In my case, to make mentioned feature normalize, can I use QuantileTransformer such as quantile_transformer = QuantileTransformer(output_distribution='normal', random_state=0) df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)'] = quantile_transformer.fit_transform(np.array(df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']).reshape(-1,1))
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          Log transformation leads to a normal distribution only for log-normal distributions. Not all distributions are log-normal, meaning they will not become normal after the log transformation.



          EDIT:



          As you have commented, if you are trying to convert an arbitrary distribution to normal, methods like QuantileTransformer can be used. But note that these transformations make a distribution normal by changing (destroying) some information from the original data.






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            Thanks a lot. I figure out the main idea. In my case, to make mentioned feature normalize, can I use QuantileTransformer such as quantile_transformer = QuantileTransformer(output_distribution='normal', random_state=0) df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)'] = quantile_transformer.fit_transform(np.array(df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']).reshape(-1,1))
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            @Ram Please accept the answer if it answers the original question. Thanks.
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            – Esmailian
            1 hour ago















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          $begingroup$

          Log transformation leads to a normal distribution only for log-normal distributions. Not all distributions are log-normal, meaning they will not become normal after the log transformation.



          EDIT:



          As you have commented, if you are trying to convert an arbitrary distribution to normal, methods like QuantileTransformer can be used. But note that these transformations make a distribution normal by changing (destroying) some information from the original data.






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            $begingroup$
            Thanks a lot. I figure out the main idea. In my case, to make mentioned feature normalize, can I use QuantileTransformer such as quantile_transformer = QuantileTransformer(output_distribution='normal', random_state=0) df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)'] = quantile_transformer.fit_transform(np.array(df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']).reshape(-1,1))
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            @Ram Please accept the answer if it answers the original question. Thanks.
            $endgroup$
            – Esmailian
            1 hour ago













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          $begingroup$

          Log transformation leads to a normal distribution only for log-normal distributions. Not all distributions are log-normal, meaning they will not become normal after the log transformation.



          EDIT:



          As you have commented, if you are trying to convert an arbitrary distribution to normal, methods like QuantileTransformer can be used. But note that these transformations make a distribution normal by changing (destroying) some information from the original data.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$



          Log transformation leads to a normal distribution only for log-normal distributions. Not all distributions are log-normal, meaning they will not become normal after the log transformation.



          EDIT:



          As you have commented, if you are trying to convert an arbitrary distribution to normal, methods like QuantileTransformer can be used. But note that these transformations make a distribution normal by changing (destroying) some information from the original data.







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            Thanks a lot. I figure out the main idea. In my case, to make mentioned feature normalize, can I use QuantileTransformer such as quantile_transformer = QuantileTransformer(output_distribution='normal', random_state=0) df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)'] = quantile_transformer.fit_transform(np.array(df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']).reshape(-1,1))
            $endgroup$
            – Ram
            Mar 6 at 11:57











          • $begingroup$
            @Ram Please accept the answer if it answers the original question. Thanks.
            $endgroup$
            – Esmailian
            1 hour ago












          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Thanks a lot. I figure out the main idea. In my case, to make mentioned feature normalize, can I use QuantileTransformer such as quantile_transformer = QuantileTransformer(output_distribution='normal', random_state=0) df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)'] = quantile_transformer.fit_transform(np.array(df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']).reshape(-1,1))
            $endgroup$
            – Ram
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            @Ram Please accept the answer if it answers the original question. Thanks.
            $endgroup$
            – Esmailian
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          Thanks a lot. I figure out the main idea. In my case, to make mentioned feature normalize, can I use QuantileTransformer such as quantile_transformer = QuantileTransformer(output_distribution='normal', random_state=0) df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)'] = quantile_transformer.fit_transform(np.array(df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']).reshape(-1,1))
          $endgroup$
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          Mar 6 at 11:57





          $begingroup$
          Thanks a lot. I figure out the main idea. In my case, to make mentioned feature normalize, can I use QuantileTransformer such as quantile_transformer = QuantileTransformer(output_distribution='normal', random_state=0) df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)'] = quantile_transformer.fit_transform(np.array(df['vBMD (mgHA/cm3)']).reshape(-1,1))
          $endgroup$
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