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Can I use the Wish spell to become the ruler of all dragons?
Where did the Chromatic/Metallic Dragons come from?How can I use the updated Dragons against my players without absolutely killing all of them?Is Dungeons & Dragons the origin of “Bahamut” as a dragon?Why did the designers make it so chromatic dragons can't shapechange?Can chromatic dragons potentially learn Change Shape?Can the Wish spell kill?Can the same tome be used more than once?RAW, can innate spellcaster dragons cast spells with somatic components?Does Wish just give another spell slot?What spell list must dragons use, if any?
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Can I use the wish spell to have superior influence over all metallic dragons? Or do I just limit myself to one specific color of dragon? And can I make myself ruler of that color of dragon?
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You could try, but you're not guaranteed to get it
The wish spell lets you make any request to your DM, however they need not fulfil it exactly, or in a way that is satisfactory to you:
You might be able to achieve something beyond the scope of the above examples. State your wish to the GM as precisely as possible. The GM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance; the greater the wish, the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong. This spell might simply fail, the effect you desire might only be partly achieved, or you might suffer some unforeseen consequence as a result of how you worded the wish.
From a DM's point of view, any usage of wish which attempts to "break" the game in some manner; such as granting a player an immense amount of power, would not be granted. Either they would simply let it fail, or twist your words so that what you are granted is actually detrimental to you, or a major unforeseen cost.
For your specific question, asking to be made into the ruler of Dragons, your DM might turn you into (or trap you inside) Tiamat (who is trapped The Nine Hells and is the rightful ruler of all dragons in Her own mind), or something else dependent on their creativity.
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I suppose you could turn into a giant measuring stick laying on a vet's table?
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– John Dvorak
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@JohnDvorak or the ruler of a small village called "Alldragons" ^^
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– PixelMaster
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@PixelMaster I like that idea
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– John Dvorak
7 hours ago
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Maybe a talking magical measuring stick crafted for use by dragons.
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Given the near-universal dragon desire for treasure hoards, you could wind up becoming a gold piece or gemstone
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It's up to your DM, but it's unlikely to work.
It could work, if your DM allowed it, but the guidelines suggest that it's unlikely to succeed in the way you hoped.
Player's Handbook, p.289:
You might be able to achieve something beyond the scope of the above examples. State your wish to the DM as precisely as possible. The DM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance; the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong. The spell might simply fail, the effect your desire might only be partly achieved, you might suffer some unforseen consequences as a result of how you worded the wish. For example, wishing that a villain were dead might propel you foward in time to a period when that villain is no longer alive, effectively removing you from the game. Similarly, wishing for a legendary magic item or artifact might instantly transport you to the prescence of the item's current owner.
The ability you're asking for is approximately equivalent to the Orb of Dragonkind, an artifact-level item, which allows you to call dragons; in fact, if you want the ability to freely command dragons, you're asking for even greater power than the D&D 5e version of the Orbs. The guidelines given in the wish spell suggest that wishing for this kind of power is likely to fail or result in unexpected results.
For example, the wish might do the following:
- Send you to another world where there are very few dragons, or none
- Make you nominally the ruler of dragons, but having no real authority or power, so all dragons in the world quickly decide to violently despose you
- Make you nominally the ruler of all dragons, the only benefit of which is that all dragons refer to you as "Your Highness" (no other effect)
- Make you the ruler of The Dragons, which turns out to be a minor thieves' guild in Waterdeep consisting of three incompetent oafs who owe a lot of money to the Xanathar
- Make you the ruler of red dragons... but only two tiny red pseudodragons, who are now your pets
Traditionally, DMs would handle unreasonably powerful applications of wish by intentionally interpreting the request too literally, without actually giving the player what they expected. If you wished for a million gold pieces, you got a million specks of gold dust, or perhaps you were crushed beneath a million gold pieces, or the gold came from the royal vault and now you're desperately trying to launder it before the king finds out...
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An orb of dragonkind offers very little control over dragons in 5e. It merely lets you call dragons to you. In fact, it specifically says: "Dragons drawn to the orb might be hostile toward you for compelling them against their will"
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You could try, but you're not guaranteed to get it
The wish spell lets you make any request to your DM, however they need not fulfil it exactly, or in a way that is satisfactory to you:
You might be able to achieve something beyond the scope of the above examples. State your wish to the GM as precisely as possible. The GM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance; the greater the wish, the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong. This spell might simply fail, the effect you desire might only be partly achieved, or you might suffer some unforeseen consequence as a result of how you worded the wish.
From a DM's point of view, any usage of wish which attempts to "break" the game in some manner; such as granting a player an immense amount of power, would not be granted. Either they would simply let it fail, or twist your words so that what you are granted is actually detrimental to you, or a major unforeseen cost.
For your specific question, asking to be made into the ruler of Dragons, your DM might turn you into (or trap you inside) Tiamat (who is trapped The Nine Hells and is the rightful ruler of all dragons in Her own mind), or something else dependent on their creativity.
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I suppose you could turn into a giant measuring stick laying on a vet's table?
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– John Dvorak
8 hours ago
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@JohnDvorak or the ruler of a small village called "Alldragons" ^^
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– PixelMaster
8 hours ago
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@PixelMaster I like that idea
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– John Dvorak
7 hours ago
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Maybe a talking magical measuring stick crafted for use by dragons.
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– Jack
7 hours ago
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Given the near-universal dragon desire for treasure hoards, you could wind up becoming a gold piece or gemstone
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– TDavis
1 hour ago
add a comment |
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You could try, but you're not guaranteed to get it
The wish spell lets you make any request to your DM, however they need not fulfil it exactly, or in a way that is satisfactory to you:
You might be able to achieve something beyond the scope of the above examples. State your wish to the GM as precisely as possible. The GM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance; the greater the wish, the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong. This spell might simply fail, the effect you desire might only be partly achieved, or you might suffer some unforeseen consequence as a result of how you worded the wish.
From a DM's point of view, any usage of wish which attempts to "break" the game in some manner; such as granting a player an immense amount of power, would not be granted. Either they would simply let it fail, or twist your words so that what you are granted is actually detrimental to you, or a major unforeseen cost.
For your specific question, asking to be made into the ruler of Dragons, your DM might turn you into (or trap you inside) Tiamat (who is trapped The Nine Hells and is the rightful ruler of all dragons in Her own mind), or something else dependent on their creativity.
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I suppose you could turn into a giant measuring stick laying on a vet's table?
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– John Dvorak
8 hours ago
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@JohnDvorak or the ruler of a small village called "Alldragons" ^^
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– PixelMaster
8 hours ago
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@PixelMaster I like that idea
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– John Dvorak
7 hours ago
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Maybe a talking magical measuring stick crafted for use by dragons.
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– Jack
7 hours ago
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Given the near-universal dragon desire for treasure hoards, you could wind up becoming a gold piece or gemstone
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– TDavis
1 hour ago
add a comment |
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You could try, but you're not guaranteed to get it
The wish spell lets you make any request to your DM, however they need not fulfil it exactly, or in a way that is satisfactory to you:
You might be able to achieve something beyond the scope of the above examples. State your wish to the GM as precisely as possible. The GM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance; the greater the wish, the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong. This spell might simply fail, the effect you desire might only be partly achieved, or you might suffer some unforeseen consequence as a result of how you worded the wish.
From a DM's point of view, any usage of wish which attempts to "break" the game in some manner; such as granting a player an immense amount of power, would not be granted. Either they would simply let it fail, or twist your words so that what you are granted is actually detrimental to you, or a major unforeseen cost.
For your specific question, asking to be made into the ruler of Dragons, your DM might turn you into (or trap you inside) Tiamat (who is trapped The Nine Hells and is the rightful ruler of all dragons in Her own mind), or something else dependent on their creativity.
$endgroup$
You could try, but you're not guaranteed to get it
The wish spell lets you make any request to your DM, however they need not fulfil it exactly, or in a way that is satisfactory to you:
You might be able to achieve something beyond the scope of the above examples. State your wish to the GM as precisely as possible. The GM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance; the greater the wish, the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong. This spell might simply fail, the effect you desire might only be partly achieved, or you might suffer some unforeseen consequence as a result of how you worded the wish.
From a DM's point of view, any usage of wish which attempts to "break" the game in some manner; such as granting a player an immense amount of power, would not be granted. Either they would simply let it fail, or twist your words so that what you are granted is actually detrimental to you, or a major unforeseen cost.
For your specific question, asking to be made into the ruler of Dragons, your DM might turn you into (or trap you inside) Tiamat (who is trapped The Nine Hells and is the rightful ruler of all dragons in Her own mind), or something else dependent on their creativity.
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I suppose you could turn into a giant measuring stick laying on a vet's table?
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– John Dvorak
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@JohnDvorak or the ruler of a small village called "Alldragons" ^^
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– PixelMaster
8 hours ago
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@PixelMaster I like that idea
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– John Dvorak
7 hours ago
2
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Maybe a talking magical measuring stick crafted for use by dragons.
$endgroup$
– Jack
7 hours ago
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Given the near-universal dragon desire for treasure hoards, you could wind up becoming a gold piece or gemstone
$endgroup$
– TDavis
1 hour ago
add a comment |
6
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I suppose you could turn into a giant measuring stick laying on a vet's table?
$endgroup$
– John Dvorak
8 hours ago
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@JohnDvorak or the ruler of a small village called "Alldragons" ^^
$endgroup$
– PixelMaster
8 hours ago
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@PixelMaster I like that idea
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– John Dvorak
7 hours ago
2
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Maybe a talking magical measuring stick crafted for use by dragons.
$endgroup$
– Jack
7 hours ago
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Given the near-universal dragon desire for treasure hoards, you could wind up becoming a gold piece or gemstone
$endgroup$
– TDavis
1 hour ago
6
6
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I suppose you could turn into a giant measuring stick laying on a vet's table?
$endgroup$
– John Dvorak
8 hours ago
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I suppose you could turn into a giant measuring stick laying on a vet's table?
$endgroup$
– John Dvorak
8 hours ago
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9
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@JohnDvorak or the ruler of a small village called "Alldragons" ^^
$endgroup$
– PixelMaster
8 hours ago
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@JohnDvorak or the ruler of a small village called "Alldragons" ^^
$endgroup$
– PixelMaster
8 hours ago
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@PixelMaster I like that idea
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– John Dvorak
7 hours ago
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@PixelMaster I like that idea
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– John Dvorak
7 hours ago
2
2
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Maybe a talking magical measuring stick crafted for use by dragons.
$endgroup$
– Jack
7 hours ago
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Maybe a talking magical measuring stick crafted for use by dragons.
$endgroup$
– Jack
7 hours ago
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Given the near-universal dragon desire for treasure hoards, you could wind up becoming a gold piece or gemstone
$endgroup$
– TDavis
1 hour ago
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Given the near-universal dragon desire for treasure hoards, you could wind up becoming a gold piece or gemstone
$endgroup$
– TDavis
1 hour ago
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It's up to your DM, but it's unlikely to work.
It could work, if your DM allowed it, but the guidelines suggest that it's unlikely to succeed in the way you hoped.
Player's Handbook, p.289:
You might be able to achieve something beyond the scope of the above examples. State your wish to the DM as precisely as possible. The DM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance; the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong. The spell might simply fail, the effect your desire might only be partly achieved, you might suffer some unforseen consequences as a result of how you worded the wish. For example, wishing that a villain were dead might propel you foward in time to a period when that villain is no longer alive, effectively removing you from the game. Similarly, wishing for a legendary magic item or artifact might instantly transport you to the prescence of the item's current owner.
The ability you're asking for is approximately equivalent to the Orb of Dragonkind, an artifact-level item, which allows you to call dragons; in fact, if you want the ability to freely command dragons, you're asking for even greater power than the D&D 5e version of the Orbs. The guidelines given in the wish spell suggest that wishing for this kind of power is likely to fail or result in unexpected results.
For example, the wish might do the following:
- Send you to another world where there are very few dragons, or none
- Make you nominally the ruler of dragons, but having no real authority or power, so all dragons in the world quickly decide to violently despose you
- Make you nominally the ruler of all dragons, the only benefit of which is that all dragons refer to you as "Your Highness" (no other effect)
- Make you the ruler of The Dragons, which turns out to be a minor thieves' guild in Waterdeep consisting of three incompetent oafs who owe a lot of money to the Xanathar
- Make you the ruler of red dragons... but only two tiny red pseudodragons, who are now your pets
Traditionally, DMs would handle unreasonably powerful applications of wish by intentionally interpreting the request too literally, without actually giving the player what they expected. If you wished for a million gold pieces, you got a million specks of gold dust, or perhaps you were crushed beneath a million gold pieces, or the gold came from the royal vault and now you're desperately trying to launder it before the king finds out...
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An orb of dragonkind offers very little control over dragons in 5e. It merely lets you call dragons to you. In fact, it specifically says: "Dragons drawn to the orb might be hostile toward you for compelling them against their will"
$endgroup$
– David Coffron
8 hours ago
add a comment |
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It's up to your DM, but it's unlikely to work.
It could work, if your DM allowed it, but the guidelines suggest that it's unlikely to succeed in the way you hoped.
Player's Handbook, p.289:
You might be able to achieve something beyond the scope of the above examples. State your wish to the DM as precisely as possible. The DM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance; the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong. The spell might simply fail, the effect your desire might only be partly achieved, you might suffer some unforseen consequences as a result of how you worded the wish. For example, wishing that a villain were dead might propel you foward in time to a period when that villain is no longer alive, effectively removing you from the game. Similarly, wishing for a legendary magic item or artifact might instantly transport you to the prescence of the item's current owner.
The ability you're asking for is approximately equivalent to the Orb of Dragonkind, an artifact-level item, which allows you to call dragons; in fact, if you want the ability to freely command dragons, you're asking for even greater power than the D&D 5e version of the Orbs. The guidelines given in the wish spell suggest that wishing for this kind of power is likely to fail or result in unexpected results.
For example, the wish might do the following:
- Send you to another world where there are very few dragons, or none
- Make you nominally the ruler of dragons, but having no real authority or power, so all dragons in the world quickly decide to violently despose you
- Make you nominally the ruler of all dragons, the only benefit of which is that all dragons refer to you as "Your Highness" (no other effect)
- Make you the ruler of The Dragons, which turns out to be a minor thieves' guild in Waterdeep consisting of three incompetent oafs who owe a lot of money to the Xanathar
- Make you the ruler of red dragons... but only two tiny red pseudodragons, who are now your pets
Traditionally, DMs would handle unreasonably powerful applications of wish by intentionally interpreting the request too literally, without actually giving the player what they expected. If you wished for a million gold pieces, you got a million specks of gold dust, or perhaps you were crushed beneath a million gold pieces, or the gold came from the royal vault and now you're desperately trying to launder it before the king finds out...
$endgroup$
4
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An orb of dragonkind offers very little control over dragons in 5e. It merely lets you call dragons to you. In fact, it specifically says: "Dragons drawn to the orb might be hostile toward you for compelling them against their will"
$endgroup$
– David Coffron
8 hours ago
add a comment |
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It's up to your DM, but it's unlikely to work.
It could work, if your DM allowed it, but the guidelines suggest that it's unlikely to succeed in the way you hoped.
Player's Handbook, p.289:
You might be able to achieve something beyond the scope of the above examples. State your wish to the DM as precisely as possible. The DM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance; the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong. The spell might simply fail, the effect your desire might only be partly achieved, you might suffer some unforseen consequences as a result of how you worded the wish. For example, wishing that a villain were dead might propel you foward in time to a period when that villain is no longer alive, effectively removing you from the game. Similarly, wishing for a legendary magic item or artifact might instantly transport you to the prescence of the item's current owner.
The ability you're asking for is approximately equivalent to the Orb of Dragonkind, an artifact-level item, which allows you to call dragons; in fact, if you want the ability to freely command dragons, you're asking for even greater power than the D&D 5e version of the Orbs. The guidelines given in the wish spell suggest that wishing for this kind of power is likely to fail or result in unexpected results.
For example, the wish might do the following:
- Send you to another world where there are very few dragons, or none
- Make you nominally the ruler of dragons, but having no real authority or power, so all dragons in the world quickly decide to violently despose you
- Make you nominally the ruler of all dragons, the only benefit of which is that all dragons refer to you as "Your Highness" (no other effect)
- Make you the ruler of The Dragons, which turns out to be a minor thieves' guild in Waterdeep consisting of three incompetent oafs who owe a lot of money to the Xanathar
- Make you the ruler of red dragons... but only two tiny red pseudodragons, who are now your pets
Traditionally, DMs would handle unreasonably powerful applications of wish by intentionally interpreting the request too literally, without actually giving the player what they expected. If you wished for a million gold pieces, you got a million specks of gold dust, or perhaps you were crushed beneath a million gold pieces, or the gold came from the royal vault and now you're desperately trying to launder it before the king finds out...
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It's up to your DM, but it's unlikely to work.
It could work, if your DM allowed it, but the guidelines suggest that it's unlikely to succeed in the way you hoped.
Player's Handbook, p.289:
You might be able to achieve something beyond the scope of the above examples. State your wish to the DM as precisely as possible. The DM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance; the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong. The spell might simply fail, the effect your desire might only be partly achieved, you might suffer some unforseen consequences as a result of how you worded the wish. For example, wishing that a villain were dead might propel you foward in time to a period when that villain is no longer alive, effectively removing you from the game. Similarly, wishing for a legendary magic item or artifact might instantly transport you to the prescence of the item's current owner.
The ability you're asking for is approximately equivalent to the Orb of Dragonkind, an artifact-level item, which allows you to call dragons; in fact, if you want the ability to freely command dragons, you're asking for even greater power than the D&D 5e version of the Orbs. The guidelines given in the wish spell suggest that wishing for this kind of power is likely to fail or result in unexpected results.
For example, the wish might do the following:
- Send you to another world where there are very few dragons, or none
- Make you nominally the ruler of dragons, but having no real authority or power, so all dragons in the world quickly decide to violently despose you
- Make you nominally the ruler of all dragons, the only benefit of which is that all dragons refer to you as "Your Highness" (no other effect)
- Make you the ruler of The Dragons, which turns out to be a minor thieves' guild in Waterdeep consisting of three incompetent oafs who owe a lot of money to the Xanathar
- Make you the ruler of red dragons... but only two tiny red pseudodragons, who are now your pets
Traditionally, DMs would handle unreasonably powerful applications of wish by intentionally interpreting the request too literally, without actually giving the player what they expected. If you wished for a million gold pieces, you got a million specks of gold dust, or perhaps you were crushed beneath a million gold pieces, or the gold came from the royal vault and now you're desperately trying to launder it before the king finds out...
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An orb of dragonkind offers very little control over dragons in 5e. It merely lets you call dragons to you. In fact, it specifically says: "Dragons drawn to the orb might be hostile toward you for compelling them against their will"
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An orb of dragonkind offers very little control over dragons in 5e. It merely lets you call dragons to you. In fact, it specifically says: "Dragons drawn to the orb might be hostile toward you for compelling them against their will"
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– David Coffron
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An orb of dragonkind offers very little control over dragons in 5e. It merely lets you call dragons to you. In fact, it specifically says: "Dragons drawn to the orb might be hostile toward you for compelling them against their will"
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– David Coffron
8 hours ago
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An orb of dragonkind offers very little control over dragons in 5e. It merely lets you call dragons to you. In fact, it specifically says: "Dragons drawn to the orb might be hostile toward you for compelling them against their will"
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– David Coffron
8 hours ago
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