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When is человек used as the word man instead of человек
Adjective gender for terms of endearmentThe usage of иметьWhen to use «раз, два, три» instead of «один, два, три»?Questions about the Russian old children's song “Каравай”How to express “the same” in RussianWhen do I use лже and when псевдо?“Nothing” in RussianAre “домой” and “дома” interchangeable and if not, what's the difference?“Ты” versus “вы” confusionWhat publications or institutions govern proper usage of the Russian language?When can we omit есть?
I am coming across sentences where человек is used instead of мужчина, when does this happen and why?
Example:
That man is not a professor he is a doctor
Этот человек не профессор доктор
тот человек не профессор он доктор
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I am coming across sentences where человек is used instead of мужчина, when does this happen and why?
Example:
That man is not a professor he is a doctor
Этот человек не профессор доктор
тот человек не профессор он доктор
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I am coming across sentences where человек is used instead of мужчина, when does this happen and why?
Example:
That man is not a professor he is a doctor
Этот человек не профессор доктор
тот человек не профессор он доктор
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I am coming across sentences where человек is used instead of мужчина, when does this happen and why?
Example:
That man is not a professor he is a doctor
Этот человек не профессор доктор
тот человек не профессор он доктор
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It's just Russian happens to be more gender-neutral than English, at least in the case of человек which can mean 'man', 'person' or 'human being' depending on context:
- Она - хороший человек / друг. = She is a good person / friend.
- Этот человек - твоя мать!
- Одному человеку стало плохо. = Someone felt sick.
- Лифт вмещает 5 человек.
- Этот человек спас тебе жизнь. = This man saved your life.
Use мужчина only when you want to emphasise their masculinity:
- Он вел себя как мужчина. = He behaved like a man.
I think Bolsheviks' idea of everyone's equality has contributed to this effect. Before the revolution of 1917 it was customary to use господин/госпожа (or молодой человек / барышня for younger people) in the context you mentioned:
- Этот господин - врач. = This man is a doctor.
In those days человек was used to call (and refer to) servants.
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Человек is a man/human in general. Мужчина is used when you want to highlight that a person is a male as well. For example - A man is strong. Человек силён. But Мужчина по природе своей - воин. A man is a fighter by nature. (here we specify that he is a male) So is you want to say something in general use человек. When you want to add than the person you are talking about is male then use мужчина.
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i understand what you are saying , to compare it is just like the function of есть, emphasizing the fact that he is male. but in the sentences i gave as examples,do not work with the rule you just gave me , in those sentences it should be мужчина
– Almonds812
4 hours ago
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I think this phenomenon is caused by 2 reasons:
- the noun 'человек' has a male gender in Russian (most significant)
- 'мужчина' in Russian is more about a symbol: age and character
First of all, as you know, in Russian most nouns have male or female gender (there is also a 'middle' gender, but it is more rare, and used mostly for nature). 'Человек' means 'human' and its gender is male, while 'персона' means 'person' and its gender is female. This happened somewhen in history, I don't know. What to add: it is strange in Russian to describe person in one gender (women, for example) using nouns in other gender (you could see a separate thread about this topic).
The other reason not to use gender is that the word 'мужчина' is linked to the symbol of the person. 'Мужчина' is a grown-up, independent male person (+ a bit of stereotypes about self-confidence and brutality), full of energy. Women underline cliche, police underlines gender. I think feminists will never stop in Russian the usage of expressions like 'быть мужчиной' (to be a man), 'становиться мужчиной' (become/grow up to a man), because this partice is less linked to a separate man in the language. Wive can say her husband is not 'мужчина'. 'Мужчина' is (by priority):
- gender
- symbol
- age
So it becomes logical, that when you wish to abstract from 'мужчина' to a separate noun, closer to 'person', you use 'человек'. In Russian man (male) never says 'мужчина' about his someone from his surrounding: college, friend, member of a team, etc. - use status (friend, college...) or 'парень' (=guy) instead.
Народ (на-нашем-горящий), поясните за минуса: я в чём-то неправильно воспринял аспект языка, или это лишь истерика равноправия? Просто если кто убедит в первом, с радостью удалю бельмо со страницы
– makaleks
3 hours ago
"In Russian man never says 'мужчина' ..." - but a woman would say! Ex: "Мужчина, вы тут не стояли!"
– Alexander
3 hours ago
I used 'man' as gender... I suppose you example was pronounced by woman, I would use 'уважаемый' or informal form (addressing 'ты')
– makaleks
3 hours ago
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It's just Russian happens to be more gender-neutral than English, at least in the case of человек which can mean 'man', 'person' or 'human being' depending on context:
- Она - хороший человек / друг. = She is a good person / friend.
- Этот человек - твоя мать!
- Одному человеку стало плохо. = Someone felt sick.
- Лифт вмещает 5 человек.
- Этот человек спас тебе жизнь. = This man saved your life.
Use мужчина only when you want to emphasise their masculinity:
- Он вел себя как мужчина. = He behaved like a man.
I think Bolsheviks' idea of everyone's equality has contributed to this effect. Before the revolution of 1917 it was customary to use господин/госпожа (or молодой человек / барышня for younger people) in the context you mentioned:
- Этот господин - врач. = This man is a doctor.
In those days человек was used to call (and refer to) servants.
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It's just Russian happens to be more gender-neutral than English, at least in the case of человек which can mean 'man', 'person' or 'human being' depending on context:
- Она - хороший человек / друг. = She is a good person / friend.
- Этот человек - твоя мать!
- Одному человеку стало плохо. = Someone felt sick.
- Лифт вмещает 5 человек.
- Этот человек спас тебе жизнь. = This man saved your life.
Use мужчина only when you want to emphasise their masculinity:
- Он вел себя как мужчина. = He behaved like a man.
I think Bolsheviks' idea of everyone's equality has contributed to this effect. Before the revolution of 1917 it was customary to use господин/госпожа (or молодой человек / барышня for younger people) in the context you mentioned:
- Этот господин - врач. = This man is a doctor.
In those days человек was used to call (and refer to) servants.
add a comment |
It's just Russian happens to be more gender-neutral than English, at least in the case of человек which can mean 'man', 'person' or 'human being' depending on context:
- Она - хороший человек / друг. = She is a good person / friend.
- Этот человек - твоя мать!
- Одному человеку стало плохо. = Someone felt sick.
- Лифт вмещает 5 человек.
- Этот человек спас тебе жизнь. = This man saved your life.
Use мужчина only when you want to emphasise their masculinity:
- Он вел себя как мужчина. = He behaved like a man.
I think Bolsheviks' idea of everyone's equality has contributed to this effect. Before the revolution of 1917 it was customary to use господин/госпожа (or молодой человек / барышня for younger people) in the context you mentioned:
- Этот господин - врач. = This man is a doctor.
In those days человек was used to call (and refer to) servants.
It's just Russian happens to be more gender-neutral than English, at least in the case of человек which can mean 'man', 'person' or 'human being' depending on context:
- Она - хороший человек / друг. = She is a good person / friend.
- Этот человек - твоя мать!
- Одному человеку стало плохо. = Someone felt sick.
- Лифт вмещает 5 человек.
- Этот человек спас тебе жизнь. = This man saved your life.
Use мужчина only when you want to emphasise their masculinity:
- Он вел себя как мужчина. = He behaved like a man.
I think Bolsheviks' idea of everyone's equality has contributed to this effect. Before the revolution of 1917 it was customary to use господин/госпожа (or молодой человек / барышня for younger people) in the context you mentioned:
- Этот господин - врач. = This man is a doctor.
In those days человек was used to call (and refer to) servants.
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Человек is a man/human in general. Мужчина is used when you want to highlight that a person is a male as well. For example - A man is strong. Человек силён. But Мужчина по природе своей - воин. A man is a fighter by nature. (here we specify that he is a male) So is you want to say something in general use человек. When you want to add than the person you are talking about is male then use мужчина.
New contributor
i understand what you are saying , to compare it is just like the function of есть, emphasizing the fact that he is male. but in the sentences i gave as examples,do not work with the rule you just gave me , in those sentences it should be мужчина
– Almonds812
4 hours ago
add a comment |
Человек is a man/human in general. Мужчина is used when you want to highlight that a person is a male as well. For example - A man is strong. Человек силён. But Мужчина по природе своей - воин. A man is a fighter by nature. (here we specify that he is a male) So is you want to say something in general use человек. When you want to add than the person you are talking about is male then use мужчина.
New contributor
i understand what you are saying , to compare it is just like the function of есть, emphasizing the fact that he is male. but in the sentences i gave as examples,do not work with the rule you just gave me , in those sentences it should be мужчина
– Almonds812
4 hours ago
add a comment |
Человек is a man/human in general. Мужчина is used when you want to highlight that a person is a male as well. For example - A man is strong. Человек силён. But Мужчина по природе своей - воин. A man is a fighter by nature. (here we specify that he is a male) So is you want to say something in general use человек. When you want to add than the person you are talking about is male then use мужчина.
New contributor
Человек is a man/human in general. Мужчина is used when you want to highlight that a person is a male as well. For example - A man is strong. Человек силён. But Мужчина по природе своей - воин. A man is a fighter by nature. (here we specify that he is a male) So is you want to say something in general use человек. When you want to add than the person you are talking about is male then use мужчина.
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i understand what you are saying , to compare it is just like the function of есть, emphasizing the fact that he is male. but in the sentences i gave as examples,do not work with the rule you just gave me , in those sentences it should be мужчина
– Almonds812
4 hours ago
add a comment |
i understand what you are saying , to compare it is just like the function of есть, emphasizing the fact that he is male. but in the sentences i gave as examples,do not work with the rule you just gave me , in those sentences it should be мужчина
– Almonds812
4 hours ago
i understand what you are saying , to compare it is just like the function of есть, emphasizing the fact that he is male. but in the sentences i gave as examples,do not work with the rule you just gave me , in those sentences it should be мужчина
– Almonds812
4 hours ago
i understand what you are saying , to compare it is just like the function of есть, emphasizing the fact that he is male. but in the sentences i gave as examples,do not work with the rule you just gave me , in those sentences it should be мужчина
– Almonds812
4 hours ago
add a comment |
I think this phenomenon is caused by 2 reasons:
- the noun 'человек' has a male gender in Russian (most significant)
- 'мужчина' in Russian is more about a symbol: age and character
First of all, as you know, in Russian most nouns have male or female gender (there is also a 'middle' gender, but it is more rare, and used mostly for nature). 'Человек' means 'human' and its gender is male, while 'персона' means 'person' and its gender is female. This happened somewhen in history, I don't know. What to add: it is strange in Russian to describe person in one gender (women, for example) using nouns in other gender (you could see a separate thread about this topic).
The other reason not to use gender is that the word 'мужчина' is linked to the symbol of the person. 'Мужчина' is a grown-up, independent male person (+ a bit of stereotypes about self-confidence and brutality), full of energy. Women underline cliche, police underlines gender. I think feminists will never stop in Russian the usage of expressions like 'быть мужчиной' (to be a man), 'становиться мужчиной' (become/grow up to a man), because this partice is less linked to a separate man in the language. Wive can say her husband is not 'мужчина'. 'Мужчина' is (by priority):
- gender
- symbol
- age
So it becomes logical, that when you wish to abstract from 'мужчина' to a separate noun, closer to 'person', you use 'человек'. In Russian man (male) never says 'мужчина' about his someone from his surrounding: college, friend, member of a team, etc. - use status (friend, college...) or 'парень' (=guy) instead.
Народ (на-нашем-горящий), поясните за минуса: я в чём-то неправильно воспринял аспект языка, или это лишь истерика равноправия? Просто если кто убедит в первом, с радостью удалю бельмо со страницы
– makaleks
3 hours ago
"In Russian man never says 'мужчина' ..." - but a woman would say! Ex: "Мужчина, вы тут не стояли!"
– Alexander
3 hours ago
I used 'man' as gender... I suppose you example was pronounced by woman, I would use 'уважаемый' or informal form (addressing 'ты')
– makaleks
3 hours ago
add a comment |
I think this phenomenon is caused by 2 reasons:
- the noun 'человек' has a male gender in Russian (most significant)
- 'мужчина' in Russian is more about a symbol: age and character
First of all, as you know, in Russian most nouns have male or female gender (there is also a 'middle' gender, but it is more rare, and used mostly for nature). 'Человек' means 'human' and its gender is male, while 'персона' means 'person' and its gender is female. This happened somewhen in history, I don't know. What to add: it is strange in Russian to describe person in one gender (women, for example) using nouns in other gender (you could see a separate thread about this topic).
The other reason not to use gender is that the word 'мужчина' is linked to the symbol of the person. 'Мужчина' is a grown-up, independent male person (+ a bit of stereotypes about self-confidence and brutality), full of energy. Women underline cliche, police underlines gender. I think feminists will never stop in Russian the usage of expressions like 'быть мужчиной' (to be a man), 'становиться мужчиной' (become/grow up to a man), because this partice is less linked to a separate man in the language. Wive can say her husband is not 'мужчина'. 'Мужчина' is (by priority):
- gender
- symbol
- age
So it becomes logical, that when you wish to abstract from 'мужчина' to a separate noun, closer to 'person', you use 'человек'. In Russian man (male) never says 'мужчина' about his someone from his surrounding: college, friend, member of a team, etc. - use status (friend, college...) or 'парень' (=guy) instead.
Народ (на-нашем-горящий), поясните за минуса: я в чём-то неправильно воспринял аспект языка, или это лишь истерика равноправия? Просто если кто убедит в первом, с радостью удалю бельмо со страницы
– makaleks
3 hours ago
"In Russian man never says 'мужчина' ..." - but a woman would say! Ex: "Мужчина, вы тут не стояли!"
– Alexander
3 hours ago
I used 'man' as gender... I suppose you example was pronounced by woman, I would use 'уважаемый' or informal form (addressing 'ты')
– makaleks
3 hours ago
add a comment |
I think this phenomenon is caused by 2 reasons:
- the noun 'человек' has a male gender in Russian (most significant)
- 'мужчина' in Russian is more about a symbol: age and character
First of all, as you know, in Russian most nouns have male or female gender (there is also a 'middle' gender, but it is more rare, and used mostly for nature). 'Человек' means 'human' and its gender is male, while 'персона' means 'person' and its gender is female. This happened somewhen in history, I don't know. What to add: it is strange in Russian to describe person in one gender (women, for example) using nouns in other gender (you could see a separate thread about this topic).
The other reason not to use gender is that the word 'мужчина' is linked to the symbol of the person. 'Мужчина' is a grown-up, independent male person (+ a bit of stereotypes about self-confidence and brutality), full of energy. Women underline cliche, police underlines gender. I think feminists will never stop in Russian the usage of expressions like 'быть мужчиной' (to be a man), 'становиться мужчиной' (become/grow up to a man), because this partice is less linked to a separate man in the language. Wive can say her husband is not 'мужчина'. 'Мужчина' is (by priority):
- gender
- symbol
- age
So it becomes logical, that when you wish to abstract from 'мужчина' to a separate noun, closer to 'person', you use 'человек'. In Russian man (male) never says 'мужчина' about his someone from his surrounding: college, friend, member of a team, etc. - use status (friend, college...) or 'парень' (=guy) instead.
I think this phenomenon is caused by 2 reasons:
- the noun 'человек' has a male gender in Russian (most significant)
- 'мужчина' in Russian is more about a symbol: age and character
First of all, as you know, in Russian most nouns have male or female gender (there is also a 'middle' gender, but it is more rare, and used mostly for nature). 'Человек' means 'human' and its gender is male, while 'персона' means 'person' and its gender is female. This happened somewhen in history, I don't know. What to add: it is strange in Russian to describe person in one gender (women, for example) using nouns in other gender (you could see a separate thread about this topic).
The other reason not to use gender is that the word 'мужчина' is linked to the symbol of the person. 'Мужчина' is a grown-up, independent male person (+ a bit of stereotypes about self-confidence and brutality), full of energy. Women underline cliche, police underlines gender. I think feminists will never stop in Russian the usage of expressions like 'быть мужчиной' (to be a man), 'становиться мужчиной' (become/grow up to a man), because this partice is less linked to a separate man in the language. Wive can say her husband is not 'мужчина'. 'Мужчина' is (by priority):
- gender
- symbol
- age
So it becomes logical, that when you wish to abstract from 'мужчина' to a separate noun, closer to 'person', you use 'человек'. In Russian man (male) never says 'мужчина' about his someone from his surrounding: college, friend, member of a team, etc. - use status (friend, college...) or 'парень' (=guy) instead.
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Народ (на-нашем-горящий), поясните за минуса: я в чём-то неправильно воспринял аспект языка, или это лишь истерика равноправия? Просто если кто убедит в первом, с радостью удалю бельмо со страницы
– makaleks
3 hours ago
"In Russian man never says 'мужчина' ..." - but a woman would say! Ex: "Мужчина, вы тут не стояли!"
– Alexander
3 hours ago
I used 'man' as gender... I suppose you example was pronounced by woman, I would use 'уважаемый' or informal form (addressing 'ты')
– makaleks
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Народ (на-нашем-горящий), поясните за минуса: я в чём-то неправильно воспринял аспект языка, или это лишь истерика равноправия? Просто если кто убедит в первом, с радостью удалю бельмо со страницы
– makaleks
3 hours ago
"In Russian man never says 'мужчина' ..." - but a woman would say! Ex: "Мужчина, вы тут не стояли!"
– Alexander
3 hours ago
I used 'man' as gender... I suppose you example was pronounced by woman, I would use 'уважаемый' or informal form (addressing 'ты')
– makaleks
3 hours ago
Народ (на-нашем-горящий), поясните за минуса: я в чём-то неправильно воспринял аспект языка, или это лишь истерика равноправия? Просто если кто убедит в первом, с радостью удалю бельмо со страницы
– makaleks
3 hours ago
Народ (на-нашем-горящий), поясните за минуса: я в чём-то неправильно воспринял аспект языка, или это лишь истерика равноправия? Просто если кто убедит в первом, с радостью удалю бельмо со страницы
– makaleks
3 hours ago
"In Russian man never says 'мужчина' ..." - but a woman would say! Ex: "Мужчина, вы тут не стояли!"
– Alexander
3 hours ago
"In Russian man never says 'мужчина' ..." - but a woman would say! Ex: "Мужчина, вы тут не стояли!"
– Alexander
3 hours ago
I used 'man' as gender... I suppose you example was pronounced by woman, I would use 'уважаемый' or informal form (addressing 'ты')
– makaleks
3 hours ago
I used 'man' as gender... I suppose you example was pronounced by woman, I would use 'уважаемый' or informal form (addressing 'ты')
– makaleks
3 hours ago
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