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Why didn't Khan get resurrected in the Genesis Explosion?
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In the end of (1980s) Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan, as the Enterprise escapes the nebula, leaving the dying Reliant behind, we see Khan engaging the memory banks of the Genesis device.
Later we see Spock's coffin torpedo ends up on the newly formed Genesis planet and as part of the result of the Genesis effect, clearly gets resurrected.
Wouldn't Khan have been resurrected too? Although, yes, Reliant was destroyed by the Genesis wave explosion, shouldn't he (and his crew??) have been resurrected as a by-product of the Genesis effect as well?
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In the end of (1980s) Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan, as the Enterprise escapes the nebula, leaving the dying Reliant behind, we see Khan engaging the memory banks of the Genesis device.
Later we see Spock's coffin torpedo ends up on the newly formed Genesis planet and as part of the result of the Genesis effect, clearly gets resurrected.
Wouldn't Khan have been resurrected too? Although, yes, Reliant was destroyed by the Genesis wave explosion, shouldn't he (and his crew??) have been resurrected as a by-product of the Genesis effect as well?
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Khan's body would have been obliterated, blasted into billions of tiny little pieces, and altogether vaporized in the explosion, as opposed to Spock, whose carcass was torpedoed to the burgeoning Genesis planet? Remember, the wave destroys life, "in favour of its new matrix.". Khan and his crew were caught up in the destructive, life-killing part of the wave.. Spock's body was part of the 'new matrix"
– NKCampbell
4 hours ago
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Maybe he did, in the centre of the planet. Being confined, for his pride and rebellion, in something geometrically resembling the Ninth Circle of Hell seems appropriate for someone who quotes Milton.
– Gaultheria
1 hour ago
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In the end of (1980s) Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan, as the Enterprise escapes the nebula, leaving the dying Reliant behind, we see Khan engaging the memory banks of the Genesis device.
Later we see Spock's coffin torpedo ends up on the newly formed Genesis planet and as part of the result of the Genesis effect, clearly gets resurrected.
Wouldn't Khan have been resurrected too? Although, yes, Reliant was destroyed by the Genesis wave explosion, shouldn't he (and his crew??) have been resurrected as a by-product of the Genesis effect as well?
star-trek the-wrath-of-khan
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asked 4 hours ago
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In the end of (1980s) Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan, as the Enterprise escapes the nebula, leaving the dying Reliant behind, we see Khan engaging the memory banks of the Genesis device.
Later we see Spock's coffin torpedo ends up on the newly formed Genesis planet and as part of the result of the Genesis effect, clearly gets resurrected.
Wouldn't Khan have been resurrected too? Although, yes, Reliant was destroyed by the Genesis wave explosion, shouldn't he (and his crew??) have been resurrected as a by-product of the Genesis effect as well?
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Khan's body would have been obliterated, blasted into billions of tiny little pieces, and altogether vaporized in the explosion, as opposed to Spock, whose carcass was torpedoed to the burgeoning Genesis planet? Remember, the wave destroys life, "in favour of its new matrix.". Khan and his crew were caught up in the destructive, life-killing part of the wave.. Spock's body was part of the 'new matrix"
– NKCampbell
4 hours ago
1
Maybe he did, in the centre of the planet. Being confined, for his pride and rebellion, in something geometrically resembling the Ninth Circle of Hell seems appropriate for someone who quotes Milton.
– Gaultheria
1 hour ago
add a comment |
4
Khan's body would have been obliterated, blasted into billions of tiny little pieces, and altogether vaporized in the explosion, as opposed to Spock, whose carcass was torpedoed to the burgeoning Genesis planet? Remember, the wave destroys life, "in favour of its new matrix.". Khan and his crew were caught up in the destructive, life-killing part of the wave.. Spock's body was part of the 'new matrix"
– NKCampbell
4 hours ago
1
Maybe he did, in the centre of the planet. Being confined, for his pride and rebellion, in something geometrically resembling the Ninth Circle of Hell seems appropriate for someone who quotes Milton.
– Gaultheria
1 hour ago
4
4
Khan's body would have been obliterated, blasted into billions of tiny little pieces, and altogether vaporized in the explosion, as opposed to Spock, whose carcass was torpedoed to the burgeoning Genesis planet? Remember, the wave destroys life, "in favour of its new matrix.". Khan and his crew were caught up in the destructive, life-killing part of the wave.. Spock's body was part of the 'new matrix"
– NKCampbell
4 hours ago
Khan's body would have been obliterated, blasted into billions of tiny little pieces, and altogether vaporized in the explosion, as opposed to Spock, whose carcass was torpedoed to the burgeoning Genesis planet? Remember, the wave destroys life, "in favour of its new matrix.". Khan and his crew were caught up in the destructive, life-killing part of the wave.. Spock's body was part of the 'new matrix"
– NKCampbell
4 hours ago
1
1
Maybe he did, in the centre of the planet. Being confined, for his pride and rebellion, in something geometrically resembling the Ninth Circle of Hell seems appropriate for someone who quotes Milton.
– Gaultheria
1 hour ago
Maybe he did, in the centre of the planet. Being confined, for his pride and rebellion, in something geometrically resembling the Ninth Circle of Hell seems appropriate for someone who quotes Milton.
– Gaultheria
1 hour ago
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As observed in this dialogue from the movie:
McCoy: Dear Lord. You think we're intelligent enough to... suppose... what if this thing were used where life already exists?
Spock: It would destroy such life in favor of its new matrix.
Khan and his gang were literally at ground zero supplying the detonating Genesis Device with raw material. Spock came in much later, comparatively, to be exposed to a slow "simmer" of the cooling Genesis Effect.
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it might have khan dna in the future of the creation of that planet tho....
– King of NES
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The Genesis Device detonation didn't resurrect anybody.
Spock was very definitely dead when he was put into the torpedo. His death in the engine room was caused by his efforts to make sure the Enterprise escaped the Genesis Wave. His funeral and "burial at sea" was after the sun and planet had formed.
From The Wrath of Kahn (emphasis added):
KIRK: We are assembled here today to pay final respects to our honoured dead. And yet it should be noted that in the midst of our sorrow, this death takes place in the shadow of new life, the sunrise of a new world, a world that our beloved comrade gave his life to protect and nourish. He did not feel that sacrifice a vain or empty one... and we will not debate his profound wisdom at these proceedings. Of my friend, I can only say this. Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, ...his was the most ...human.
It's uncertain if the Enterprise was was aiming to put it in orbit of the planet, have it incinerate in the atmosphere, or launch it into the star. The survey crew from the Grissom was clearly surprised to find it intact on the surface.
From The Search for Spock:
SAAVIK: Metallic mass.
DAVID: Close-range scan. ...A photon tube! ...Gravitational fields were in flux. ...It must have soft-landed!
ESTEBAN: In code to Starfleet. 'Captain's Spock's tube located on Genesis surface.'
answered 1 hour ago
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the bold answer is correct but would recommend removing the comment about "accidentally landing" and firing the torpedo towards the sun versus the planet. The film is fairly clear that the torpedo is fired directly at the planet, at least into it's orbit - given that the sun then appears behind the planet, a generous interpretation given the visual is that it's ambiguous at best as to the intended target. Barring any detail from a novelization or production detail, probably best to remove that bit as it's more akin to speculation than fact
– NKCampbell
1 hour ago
@NKCampbell Well, the target definitely wasn't the surface, or the Grissom survey crew would not have been so surprised to find it there. I've tweaked my statement anyway.
– T.J.L.
49 mins ago
If the Genesis Device detonation didn't resurrect anybody, then what resurrected Spock?
– Jesse C. Slicer
31 mins ago
@JesseC.Slicer That's beyond the scope of this question. It'd make a good separate question.
– T.J.L.
30 mins ago
1
@T.J.L.its not clear to me that the target wasn't the surface. Its very much imaginable they intended Spocks capsule to desintegrate on atmospheric entry, and that the capsule surviving re-entry is the surprising part. In fact i would say it is likely they wanted him to desintegrate - either in the sun or the planets atmosphere. But given the visuals, the planet is more likely.
– Polygnome
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As observed in this dialogue from the movie:
McCoy: Dear Lord. You think we're intelligent enough to... suppose... what if this thing were used where life already exists?
Spock: It would destroy such life in favor of its new matrix.
Khan and his gang were literally at ground zero supplying the detonating Genesis Device with raw material. Spock came in much later, comparatively, to be exposed to a slow "simmer" of the cooling Genesis Effect.
edited 3 hours ago
Thunderforge
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answered 3 hours ago
BlazeBlaze
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it might have khan dna in the future of the creation of that planet tho....
– King of NES
53 mins ago
add a comment |
As observed in this dialogue from the movie:
McCoy: Dear Lord. You think we're intelligent enough to... suppose... what if this thing were used where life already exists?
Spock: It would destroy such life in favor of its new matrix.
Khan and his gang were literally at ground zero supplying the detonating Genesis Device with raw material. Spock came in much later, comparatively, to be exposed to a slow "simmer" of the cooling Genesis Effect.
edited 3 hours ago
Thunderforge
31.3k23148309
answered 3 hours ago
BlazeBlaze
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it might have khan dna in the future of the creation of that planet tho....
– King of NES
53 mins ago
add a comment |
As observed in this dialogue from the movie:
McCoy: Dear Lord. You think we're intelligent enough to... suppose... what if this thing were used where life already exists?
Spock: It would destroy such life in favor of its new matrix.
Khan and his gang were literally at ground zero supplying the detonating Genesis Device with raw material. Spock came in much later, comparatively, to be exposed to a slow "simmer" of the cooling Genesis Effect.
edited 3 hours ago
Thunderforge
31.3k23148309
answered 3 hours ago
BlazeBlaze
1,438416
As observed in this dialogue from the movie:
McCoy: Dear Lord. You think we're intelligent enough to... suppose... what if this thing were used where life already exists?
Spock: It would destroy such life in favor of its new matrix.
Khan and his gang were literally at ground zero supplying the detonating Genesis Device with raw material. Spock came in much later, comparatively, to be exposed to a slow "simmer" of the cooling Genesis Effect.
edited 3 hours ago
Thunderforge
31.3k23148309
answered 3 hours ago
BlazeBlaze
1,438416
edited 3 hours ago
Thunderforge
31.3k23148309
edited 3 hours ago
Thunderforge
31.3k23148309
edited 3 hours ago
Thunderforge
31.3k23148309
31.3k23148309
answered 3 hours ago
BlazeBlaze
1,438416
answered 3 hours ago
BlazeBlaze
1,438416
answered 3 hours ago
BlazeBlaze
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it might have khan dna in the future of the creation of that planet tho....
– King of NES
53 mins ago
add a comment |
it might have khan dna in the future of the creation of that planet tho....
– King of NES
53 mins ago
it might have khan dna in the future of the creation of that planet tho....
– King of NES
53 mins ago
it might have khan dna in the future of the creation of that planet tho....
– King of NES
53 mins ago
add a comment |
The Genesis Device detonation didn't resurrect anybody.
Spock was very definitely dead when he was put into the torpedo. His death in the engine room was caused by his efforts to make sure the Enterprise escaped the Genesis Wave. His funeral and "burial at sea" was after the sun and planet had formed.
From The Wrath of Kahn (emphasis added):
KIRK: We are assembled here today to pay final respects to our honoured dead. And yet it should be noted that in the midst of our sorrow, this death takes place in the shadow of new life, the sunrise of a new world, a world that our beloved comrade gave his life to protect and nourish. He did not feel that sacrifice a vain or empty one... and we will not debate his profound wisdom at these proceedings. Of my friend, I can only say this. Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, ...his was the most ...human.
It's uncertain if the Enterprise was was aiming to put it in orbit of the planet, have it incinerate in the atmosphere, or launch it into the star. The survey crew from the Grissom was clearly surprised to find it intact on the surface.
From The Search for Spock:
SAAVIK: Metallic mass.
DAVID: Close-range scan. ...A photon tube! ...Gravitational fields were in flux. ...It must have soft-landed!
ESTEBAN: In code to Starfleet. 'Captain's Spock's tube located on Genesis surface.'
answered 1 hour ago
T.J.L.T.J.L.
3,95631842
2
the bold answer is correct but would recommend removing the comment about "accidentally landing" and firing the torpedo towards the sun versus the planet. The film is fairly clear that the torpedo is fired directly at the planet, at least into it's orbit - given that the sun then appears behind the planet, a generous interpretation given the visual is that it's ambiguous at best as to the intended target. Barring any detail from a novelization or production detail, probably best to remove that bit as it's more akin to speculation than fact
– NKCampbell
1 hour ago
@NKCampbell Well, the target definitely wasn't the surface, or the Grissom survey crew would not have been so surprised to find it there. I've tweaked my statement anyway.
– T.J.L.
49 mins ago
If the Genesis Device detonation didn't resurrect anybody, then what resurrected Spock?
– Jesse C. Slicer
31 mins ago
@JesseC.Slicer That's beyond the scope of this question. It'd make a good separate question.
– T.J.L.
30 mins ago
1
@T.J.L.its not clear to me that the target wasn't the surface. Its very much imaginable they intended Spocks capsule to desintegrate on atmospheric entry, and that the capsule surviving re-entry is the surprising part. In fact i would say it is likely they wanted him to desintegrate - either in the sun or the planets atmosphere. But given the visuals, the planet is more likely.
– Polygnome
19 mins ago
|
show 4 more comments
The Genesis Device detonation didn't resurrect anybody.
Spock was very definitely dead when he was put into the torpedo. His death in the engine room was caused by his efforts to make sure the Enterprise escaped the Genesis Wave. His funeral and "burial at sea" was after the sun and planet had formed.
From The Wrath of Kahn (emphasis added):
KIRK: We are assembled here today to pay final respects to our honoured dead. And yet it should be noted that in the midst of our sorrow, this death takes place in the shadow of new life, the sunrise of a new world, a world that our beloved comrade gave his life to protect and nourish. He did not feel that sacrifice a vain or empty one... and we will not debate his profound wisdom at these proceedings. Of my friend, I can only say this. Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, ...his was the most ...human.
It's uncertain if the Enterprise was was aiming to put it in orbit of the planet, have it incinerate in the atmosphere, or launch it into the star. The survey crew from the Grissom was clearly surprised to find it intact on the surface.
From The Search for Spock:
SAAVIK: Metallic mass.
DAVID: Close-range scan. ...A photon tube! ...Gravitational fields were in flux. ...It must have soft-landed!
ESTEBAN: In code to Starfleet. 'Captain's Spock's tube located on Genesis surface.'
answered 1 hour ago
T.J.L.T.J.L.
3,95631842
2
the bold answer is correct but would recommend removing the comment about "accidentally landing" and firing the torpedo towards the sun versus the planet. The film is fairly clear that the torpedo is fired directly at the planet, at least into it's orbit - given that the sun then appears behind the planet, a generous interpretation given the visual is that it's ambiguous at best as to the intended target. Barring any detail from a novelization or production detail, probably best to remove that bit as it's more akin to speculation than fact
– NKCampbell
1 hour ago
@NKCampbell Well, the target definitely wasn't the surface, or the Grissom survey crew would not have been so surprised to find it there. I've tweaked my statement anyway.
– T.J.L.
49 mins ago
If the Genesis Device detonation didn't resurrect anybody, then what resurrected Spock?
– Jesse C. Slicer
31 mins ago
@JesseC.Slicer That's beyond the scope of this question. It'd make a good separate question.
– T.J.L.
30 mins ago
1
@T.J.L.its not clear to me that the target wasn't the surface. Its very much imaginable they intended Spocks capsule to desintegrate on atmospheric entry, and that the capsule surviving re-entry is the surprising part. In fact i would say it is likely they wanted him to desintegrate - either in the sun or the planets atmosphere. But given the visuals, the planet is more likely.
– Polygnome
19 mins ago
|
show 4 more comments
The Genesis Device detonation didn't resurrect anybody.
Spock was very definitely dead when he was put into the torpedo. His death in the engine room was caused by his efforts to make sure the Enterprise escaped the Genesis Wave. His funeral and "burial at sea" was after the sun and planet had formed.
From The Wrath of Kahn (emphasis added):
KIRK: We are assembled here today to pay final respects to our honoured dead. And yet it should be noted that in the midst of our sorrow, this death takes place in the shadow of new life, the sunrise of a new world, a world that our beloved comrade gave his life to protect and nourish. He did not feel that sacrifice a vain or empty one... and we will not debate his profound wisdom at these proceedings. Of my friend, I can only say this. Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, ...his was the most ...human.
It's uncertain if the Enterprise was was aiming to put it in orbit of the planet, have it incinerate in the atmosphere, or launch it into the star. The survey crew from the Grissom was clearly surprised to find it intact on the surface.
From The Search for Spock:
SAAVIK: Metallic mass.
DAVID: Close-range scan. ...A photon tube! ...Gravitational fields were in flux. ...It must have soft-landed!
ESTEBAN: In code to Starfleet. 'Captain's Spock's tube located on Genesis surface.'
answered 1 hour ago
T.J.L.T.J.L.
3,95631842
The Genesis Device detonation didn't resurrect anybody.
Spock was very definitely dead when he was put into the torpedo. His death in the engine room was caused by his efforts to make sure the Enterprise escaped the Genesis Wave. His funeral and "burial at sea" was after the sun and planet had formed.
From The Wrath of Kahn (emphasis added):
KIRK: We are assembled here today to pay final respects to our honoured dead. And yet it should be noted that in the midst of our sorrow, this death takes place in the shadow of new life, the sunrise of a new world, a world that our beloved comrade gave his life to protect and nourish. He did not feel that sacrifice a vain or empty one... and we will not debate his profound wisdom at these proceedings. Of my friend, I can only say this. Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, ...his was the most ...human.
It's uncertain if the Enterprise was was aiming to put it in orbit of the planet, have it incinerate in the atmosphere, or launch it into the star. The survey crew from the Grissom was clearly surprised to find it intact on the surface.
From The Search for Spock:
SAAVIK: Metallic mass.
DAVID: Close-range scan. ...A photon tube! ...Gravitational fields were in flux. ...It must have soft-landed!
ESTEBAN: In code to Starfleet. 'Captain's Spock's tube located on Genesis surface.'
answered 1 hour ago
T.J.L.T.J.L.
3,95631842
edited 17 mins ago
answered 1 hour ago
T.J.L.T.J.L.
3,95631842
answered 1 hour ago
T.J.L.T.J.L.
3,95631842
answered 1 hour ago
T.J.L.T.J.L.
3,95631842
3,95631842
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the bold answer is correct but would recommend removing the comment about "accidentally landing" and firing the torpedo towards the sun versus the planet. The film is fairly clear that the torpedo is fired directly at the planet, at least into it's orbit - given that the sun then appears behind the planet, a generous interpretation given the visual is that it's ambiguous at best as to the intended target. Barring any detail from a novelization or production detail, probably best to remove that bit as it's more akin to speculation than fact
– NKCampbell
1 hour ago
@NKCampbell Well, the target definitely wasn't the surface, or the Grissom survey crew would not have been so surprised to find it there. I've tweaked my statement anyway.
– T.J.L.
49 mins ago
If the Genesis Device detonation didn't resurrect anybody, then what resurrected Spock?
– Jesse C. Slicer
31 mins ago
@JesseC.Slicer That's beyond the scope of this question. It'd make a good separate question.
– T.J.L.
30 mins ago
1
@T.J.L.its not clear to me that the target wasn't the surface. Its very much imaginable they intended Spocks capsule to desintegrate on atmospheric entry, and that the capsule surviving re-entry is the surprising part. In fact i would say it is likely they wanted him to desintegrate - either in the sun or the planets atmosphere. But given the visuals, the planet is more likely.
– Polygnome
19 mins ago
|
show 4 more comments
2
the bold answer is correct but would recommend removing the comment about "accidentally landing" and firing the torpedo towards the sun versus the planet. The film is fairly clear that the torpedo is fired directly at the planet, at least into it's orbit - given that the sun then appears behind the planet, a generous interpretation given the visual is that it's ambiguous at best as to the intended target. Barring any detail from a novelization or production detail, probably best to remove that bit as it's more akin to speculation than fact
– NKCampbell
1 hour ago
@NKCampbell Well, the target definitely wasn't the surface, or the Grissom survey crew would not have been so surprised to find it there. I've tweaked my statement anyway.
– T.J.L.
49 mins ago
If the Genesis Device detonation didn't resurrect anybody, then what resurrected Spock?
– Jesse C. Slicer
31 mins ago
@JesseC.Slicer That's beyond the scope of this question. It'd make a good separate question.
– T.J.L.
30 mins ago
1
@T.J.L.its not clear to me that the target wasn't the surface. Its very much imaginable they intended Spocks capsule to desintegrate on atmospheric entry, and that the capsule surviving re-entry is the surprising part. In fact i would say it is likely they wanted him to desintegrate - either in the sun or the planets atmosphere. But given the visuals, the planet is more likely.
– Polygnome
19 mins ago
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the bold answer is correct but would recommend removing the comment about "accidentally landing" and firing the torpedo towards the sun versus the planet. The film is fairly clear that the torpedo is fired directly at the planet, at least into it's orbit - given that the sun then appears behind the planet, a generous interpretation given the visual is that it's ambiguous at best as to the intended target. Barring any detail from a novelization or production detail, probably best to remove that bit as it's more akin to speculation than fact
– NKCampbell
1 hour ago
the bold answer is correct but would recommend removing the comment about "accidentally landing" and firing the torpedo towards the sun versus the planet. The film is fairly clear that the torpedo is fired directly at the planet, at least into it's orbit - given that the sun then appears behind the planet, a generous interpretation given the visual is that it's ambiguous at best as to the intended target. Barring any detail from a novelization or production detail, probably best to remove that bit as it's more akin to speculation than fact
– NKCampbell
1 hour ago
@NKCampbell Well, the target definitely wasn't the surface, or the Grissom survey crew would not have been so surprised to find it there. I've tweaked my statement anyway.
– T.J.L.
49 mins ago
@NKCampbell Well, the target definitely wasn't the surface, or the Grissom survey crew would not have been so surprised to find it there. I've tweaked my statement anyway.
– T.J.L.
49 mins ago
If the Genesis Device detonation didn't resurrect anybody, then what resurrected Spock?
– Jesse C. Slicer
31 mins ago
If the Genesis Device detonation didn't resurrect anybody, then what resurrected Spock?
– Jesse C. Slicer
31 mins ago
@JesseC.Slicer That's beyond the scope of this question. It'd make a good separate question.
– T.J.L.
30 mins ago
@JesseC.Slicer That's beyond the scope of this question. It'd make a good separate question.
– T.J.L.
30 mins ago
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@T.J.L.its not clear to me that the target wasn't the surface. Its very much imaginable they intended Spocks capsule to desintegrate on atmospheric entry, and that the capsule surviving re-entry is the surprising part. In fact i would say it is likely they wanted him to desintegrate - either in the sun or the planets atmosphere. But given the visuals, the planet is more likely.
– Polygnome
19 mins ago
@T.J.L.its not clear to me that the target wasn't the surface. Its very much imaginable they intended Spocks capsule to desintegrate on atmospheric entry, and that the capsule surviving re-entry is the surprising part. In fact i would say it is likely they wanted him to desintegrate - either in the sun or the planets atmosphere. But given the visuals, the planet is more likely.
– Polygnome
19 mins ago
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Khan's body would have been obliterated, blasted into billions of tiny little pieces, and altogether vaporized in the explosion, as opposed to Spock, whose carcass was torpedoed to the burgeoning Genesis planet? Remember, the wave destroys life, "in favour of its new matrix.". Khan and his crew were caught up in the destructive, life-killing part of the wave.. Spock's body was part of the 'new matrix"
– NKCampbell
4 hours ago
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Maybe he did, in the centre of the planet. Being confined, for his pride and rebellion, in something geometrically resembling the Ninth Circle of Hell seems appropriate for someone who quotes Milton.
– Gaultheria
1 hour ago