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Optimizing decision threshold on model with oversampled/imbalanced data



Unicorn Meta Zoo #1: Why another podcast?
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
2019 Moderator Election Q&A - Questionnaire
2019 Community Moderator Election ResultsOverfitting/Underfitting with Data set sizeError in Model with caret PackageIs Gini coefficient a good metric for measuring predictive model performance on highly imbalanced dataImbalanced classification data with a top decile conversion metricChoosing a model for dataset with categorical variablesCross validation for highly imbalanced data with undersamplingDoes a precision score increasing with a higher number of folds mean the model will improve with more data?How to Work with Imbalanced DataProbabilistic Machine Learning model to match spatial data










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I'm working on developing a model with a highly imbalanced dataset (0.7% Minority class). To remedy the imbalance, I was going to oversample using algorithms from imbalanced-learn library. I had a workflow in mind which I wanted to share and get an opinion on if I'm heading in the right direction or maybe I missed something.



  1. Split Train/Test/Val

  2. Setup pipeline for GridSearch and optimize hyper-parameters (pipeline will only oversample training folds)

  3. Scoring metric will be AUC as training set is balanced at that point

  4. Since model was trained on balanced dataset, it will probably be very conservative and predict a lot of false positives

  5. Taking above into consideration, model will be calibrated to have more accurate probabilities (CalibratedClassifierCV)

  6. View precision/recall curve with calibrated probability thresholds on validation set and determine optimal point

Does this process sound reasonable? Would appreciate any feedback/suggestions










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    I'm working on developing a model with a highly imbalanced dataset (0.7% Minority class). To remedy the imbalance, I was going to oversample using algorithms from imbalanced-learn library. I had a workflow in mind which I wanted to share and get an opinion on if I'm heading in the right direction or maybe I missed something.



    1. Split Train/Test/Val

    2. Setup pipeline for GridSearch and optimize hyper-parameters (pipeline will only oversample training folds)

    3. Scoring metric will be AUC as training set is balanced at that point

    4. Since model was trained on balanced dataset, it will probably be very conservative and predict a lot of false positives

    5. Taking above into consideration, model will be calibrated to have more accurate probabilities (CalibratedClassifierCV)

    6. View precision/recall curve with calibrated probability thresholds on validation set and determine optimal point

    Does this process sound reasonable? Would appreciate any feedback/suggestions










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      I'm working on developing a model with a highly imbalanced dataset (0.7% Minority class). To remedy the imbalance, I was going to oversample using algorithms from imbalanced-learn library. I had a workflow in mind which I wanted to share and get an opinion on if I'm heading in the right direction or maybe I missed something.



      1. Split Train/Test/Val

      2. Setup pipeline for GridSearch and optimize hyper-parameters (pipeline will only oversample training folds)

      3. Scoring metric will be AUC as training set is balanced at that point

      4. Since model was trained on balanced dataset, it will probably be very conservative and predict a lot of false positives

      5. Taking above into consideration, model will be calibrated to have more accurate probabilities (CalibratedClassifierCV)

      6. View precision/recall curve with calibrated probability thresholds on validation set and determine optimal point

      Does this process sound reasonable? Would appreciate any feedback/suggestions










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      I'm working on developing a model with a highly imbalanced dataset (0.7% Minority class). To remedy the imbalance, I was going to oversample using algorithms from imbalanced-learn library. I had a workflow in mind which I wanted to share and get an opinion on if I'm heading in the right direction or maybe I missed something.



      1. Split Train/Test/Val

      2. Setup pipeline for GridSearch and optimize hyper-parameters (pipeline will only oversample training folds)

      3. Scoring metric will be AUC as training set is balanced at that point

      4. Since model was trained on balanced dataset, it will probably be very conservative and predict a lot of false positives

      5. Taking above into consideration, model will be calibrated to have more accurate probabilities (CalibratedClassifierCV)

      6. View precision/recall curve with calibrated probability thresholds on validation set and determine optimal point

      Does this process sound reasonable? Would appreciate any feedback/suggestions







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          I am not sure if in the last point, you meant the validation set instead of the testing set.



          Here is my advice:
          1- understand the impact of having data imbalance. Let start with understanding the difference between overall accuracy and average class accuracy. If you only care about overall accuracy, then data imbalance is not a problem, else you need to handle the data imbalance problem.



          2- the data distribution of training set can be changed by using oversampling. Undersampling, synthetic sampling, data augmentation... etc. BUT you should NOT change the data distribution of the validation and the testing sets.



          3- use the training set for training, the validation set for tuning the hyper parameters , BUT do not touch the testing set



          4- use the testing set for testing only



          5- you can control the behavior the model by controlling the data distribution, you do not need to have fully balanced data, you can control the oversampling process in a way to control the behavior of the model without using a threshold.






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            I am not sure if in the last point, you meant the validation set instead of the testing set.



            Here is my advice:
            1- understand the impact of having data imbalance. Let start with understanding the difference between overall accuracy and average class accuracy. If you only care about overall accuracy, then data imbalance is not a problem, else you need to handle the data imbalance problem.



            2- the data distribution of training set can be changed by using oversampling. Undersampling, synthetic sampling, data augmentation... etc. BUT you should NOT change the data distribution of the validation and the testing sets.



            3- use the training set for training, the validation set for tuning the hyper parameters , BUT do not touch the testing set



            4- use the testing set for testing only



            5- you can control the behavior the model by controlling the data distribution, you do not need to have fully balanced data, you can control the oversampling process in a way to control the behavior of the model without using a threshold.






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              I am not sure if in the last point, you meant the validation set instead of the testing set.



              Here is my advice:
              1- understand the impact of having data imbalance. Let start with understanding the difference between overall accuracy and average class accuracy. If you only care about overall accuracy, then data imbalance is not a problem, else you need to handle the data imbalance problem.



              2- the data distribution of training set can be changed by using oversampling. Undersampling, synthetic sampling, data augmentation... etc. BUT you should NOT change the data distribution of the validation and the testing sets.



              3- use the training set for training, the validation set for tuning the hyper parameters , BUT do not touch the testing set



              4- use the testing set for testing only



              5- you can control the behavior the model by controlling the data distribution, you do not need to have fully balanced data, you can control the oversampling process in a way to control the behavior of the model without using a threshold.






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                I am not sure if in the last point, you meant the validation set instead of the testing set.



                Here is my advice:
                1- understand the impact of having data imbalance. Let start with understanding the difference between overall accuracy and average class accuracy. If you only care about overall accuracy, then data imbalance is not a problem, else you need to handle the data imbalance problem.



                2- the data distribution of training set can be changed by using oversampling. Undersampling, synthetic sampling, data augmentation... etc. BUT you should NOT change the data distribution of the validation and the testing sets.



                3- use the training set for training, the validation set for tuning the hyper parameters , BUT do not touch the testing set



                4- use the testing set for testing only



                5- you can control the behavior the model by controlling the data distribution, you do not need to have fully balanced data, you can control the oversampling process in a way to control the behavior of the model without using a threshold.






                share|improve this answer









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                I am not sure if in the last point, you meant the validation set instead of the testing set.



                Here is my advice:
                1- understand the impact of having data imbalance. Let start with understanding the difference between overall accuracy and average class accuracy. If you only care about overall accuracy, then data imbalance is not a problem, else you need to handle the data imbalance problem.



                2- the data distribution of training set can be changed by using oversampling. Undersampling, synthetic sampling, data augmentation... etc. BUT you should NOT change the data distribution of the validation and the testing sets.



                3- use the training set for training, the validation set for tuning the hyper parameters , BUT do not touch the testing set



                4- use the testing set for testing only



                5- you can control the behavior the model by controlling the data distribution, you do not need to have fully balanced data, you can control the oversampling process in a way to control the behavior of the model without using a threshold.







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