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Roman Numeral Treatment of Suspensions


Harmony and roman numeral analysis: how to deal with chromaticism?Roman numeral notation for a suspended chord?Identifying Modulations in Roman Numeral AnalysisExtra accidents in Roman Numeral analysis in Modulation by Max RegerConsecutive fourths in melodic motionRoman Numeral Chords with SlashOrigin of Roman Numeral AnalysisRoman numeral anaysis helpRoman Numeral Analysis of Tension-Heavy JazzUsing Roman Numeral Notation with Notes in the Bass (not figured bass)













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My question today stems from me having difficulty assigning a roman numeral to a chord which either has a suspension (please see below)



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Or when there is melodic motion in the bass (please see below)



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In the first case (both examples in C major by the way), do we simply call this a vi chord and call it a day? Or, because the D in the soprano line is sounded, is this a viadd4 chord? Similarly, in the example with the C-D motion in the bass, is this just a I chord? Or is this a one chord that becomes something else--something that I wouldn't even know how to name?










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    Note that without a preceding measure in view, we can only say that the D in the soprano is an appoggiatura, not a suspension.

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My question today stems from me having difficulty assigning a roman numeral to a chord which either has a suspension (please see below)



enter image description here



Or when there is melodic motion in the bass (please see below)



enter image description here



In the first case (both examples in C major by the way), do we simply call this a vi chord and call it a day? Or, because the D in the soprano line is sounded, is this a viadd4 chord? Similarly, in the example with the C-D motion in the bass, is this just a I chord? Or is this a one chord that becomes something else--something that I wouldn't even know how to name?










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    Note that without a preceding measure in view, we can only say that the D in the soprano is an appoggiatura, not a suspension.

    – replete
    44 mins ago














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My question today stems from me having difficulty assigning a roman numeral to a chord which either has a suspension (please see below)



enter image description here



Or when there is melodic motion in the bass (please see below)



enter image description here



In the first case (both examples in C major by the way), do we simply call this a vi chord and call it a day? Or, because the D in the soprano line is sounded, is this a viadd4 chord? Similarly, in the example with the C-D motion in the bass, is this just a I chord? Or is this a one chord that becomes something else--something that I wouldn't even know how to name?










share|improve this question
















My question today stems from me having difficulty assigning a roman numeral to a chord which either has a suspension (please see below)



enter image description here



Or when there is melodic motion in the bass (please see below)



enter image description here



In the first case (both examples in C major by the way), do we simply call this a vi chord and call it a day? Or, because the D in the soprano line is sounded, is this a viadd4 chord? Similarly, in the example with the C-D motion in the bass, is this just a I chord? Or is this a one chord that becomes something else--something that I wouldn't even know how to name?







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    Note that without a preceding measure in view, we can only say that the D in the soprano is an appoggiatura, not a suspension.

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    Note that without a preceding measure in view, we can only say that the D in the soprano is an appoggiatura, not a suspension.

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Note that without a preceding measure in view, we can only say that the D in the soprano is an appoggiatura, not a suspension.

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Note that without a preceding measure in view, we can only say that the D in the soprano is an appoggiatura, not a suspension.

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Actually, without seeing the preceding measure, there are quite a couple of things that might be going on in your first example (as @replete noted in the comments).



  • D is a non-chord tone and it could be a suspension, if the note D was played on the same voice on the previous measure and help for this one; you could call the chord a 'vi 4-3', because it's the 4th of the root that is the suspension and is resolved to the chord note, the third (in this case C).


  • It could be a passing tone on an accented beat, if the previous tone on the preceding measure was an E.


  • It could be an appoggiatura, which is a non-chord neighbor tone that is resolved stepwise.


On your second example, the D note is simply a passing tone, which isn't notated in some way. It's not on a strong beat of the measure, so unless something else is happening on the other voices as well, there is no need to change something in your analysis. This kind of passing tone is usually used when the voice is moving stepwise, so in your example, the next note will most likely be E.






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    Perhaps worth adding that the 4-3 might be given in superscript aligned with the notes.

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  • Thank you for the concise answer! And the next note does happen to be an E :)

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  • @replete you are correct; I updated my answer

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Actually, without seeing the preceding measure, there are quite a couple of things that might be going on in your first example (as @replete noted in the comments).



  • D is a non-chord tone and it could be a suspension, if the note D was played on the same voice on the previous measure and help for this one; you could call the chord a 'vi 4-3', because it's the 4th of the root that is the suspension and is resolved to the chord note, the third (in this case C).


  • It could be a passing tone on an accented beat, if the previous tone on the preceding measure was an E.


  • It could be an appoggiatura, which is a non-chord neighbor tone that is resolved stepwise.


On your second example, the D note is simply a passing tone, which isn't notated in some way. It's not on a strong beat of the measure, so unless something else is happening on the other voices as well, there is no need to change something in your analysis. This kind of passing tone is usually used when the voice is moving stepwise, so in your example, the next note will most likely be E.






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    Perhaps worth adding that the 4-3 might be given in superscript aligned with the notes.

    – replete
    46 mins ago











  • Thank you for the concise answer! And the next note does happen to be an E :)

    – 286642
    45 mins ago











  • @replete you are correct; I updated my answer

    – Shevliaskovic
    36 mins ago















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Actually, without seeing the preceding measure, there are quite a couple of things that might be going on in your first example (as @replete noted in the comments).



  • D is a non-chord tone and it could be a suspension, if the note D was played on the same voice on the previous measure and help for this one; you could call the chord a 'vi 4-3', because it's the 4th of the root that is the suspension and is resolved to the chord note, the third (in this case C).


  • It could be a passing tone on an accented beat, if the previous tone on the preceding measure was an E.


  • It could be an appoggiatura, which is a non-chord neighbor tone that is resolved stepwise.


On your second example, the D note is simply a passing tone, which isn't notated in some way. It's not on a strong beat of the measure, so unless something else is happening on the other voices as well, there is no need to change something in your analysis. This kind of passing tone is usually used when the voice is moving stepwise, so in your example, the next note will most likely be E.






share|improve this answer




















  • 2





    Perhaps worth adding that the 4-3 might be given in superscript aligned with the notes.

    – replete
    46 mins ago











  • Thank you for the concise answer! And the next note does happen to be an E :)

    – 286642
    45 mins ago











  • @replete you are correct; I updated my answer

    – Shevliaskovic
    36 mins ago













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Actually, without seeing the preceding measure, there are quite a couple of things that might be going on in your first example (as @replete noted in the comments).



  • D is a non-chord tone and it could be a suspension, if the note D was played on the same voice on the previous measure and help for this one; you could call the chord a 'vi 4-3', because it's the 4th of the root that is the suspension and is resolved to the chord note, the third (in this case C).


  • It could be a passing tone on an accented beat, if the previous tone on the preceding measure was an E.


  • It could be an appoggiatura, which is a non-chord neighbor tone that is resolved stepwise.


On your second example, the D note is simply a passing tone, which isn't notated in some way. It's not on a strong beat of the measure, so unless something else is happening on the other voices as well, there is no need to change something in your analysis. This kind of passing tone is usually used when the voice is moving stepwise, so in your example, the next note will most likely be E.






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Actually, without seeing the preceding measure, there are quite a couple of things that might be going on in your first example (as @replete noted in the comments).



  • D is a non-chord tone and it could be a suspension, if the note D was played on the same voice on the previous measure and help for this one; you could call the chord a 'vi 4-3', because it's the 4th of the root that is the suspension and is resolved to the chord note, the third (in this case C).


  • It could be a passing tone on an accented beat, if the previous tone on the preceding measure was an E.


  • It could be an appoggiatura, which is a non-chord neighbor tone that is resolved stepwise.


On your second example, the D note is simply a passing tone, which isn't notated in some way. It's not on a strong beat of the measure, so unless something else is happening on the other voices as well, there is no need to change something in your analysis. This kind of passing tone is usually used when the voice is moving stepwise, so in your example, the next note will most likely be E.







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    Perhaps worth adding that the 4-3 might be given in superscript aligned with the notes.

    – replete
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  • Thank you for the concise answer! And the next note does happen to be an E :)

    – 286642
    45 mins ago











  • @replete you are correct; I updated my answer

    – Shevliaskovic
    36 mins ago












  • 2





    Perhaps worth adding that the 4-3 might be given in superscript aligned with the notes.

    – replete
    46 mins ago











  • Thank you for the concise answer! And the next note does happen to be an E :)

    – 286642
    45 mins ago











  • @replete you are correct; I updated my answer

    – Shevliaskovic
    36 mins ago







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Perhaps worth adding that the 4-3 might be given in superscript aligned with the notes.

– replete
46 mins ago





Perhaps worth adding that the 4-3 might be given in superscript aligned with the notes.

– replete
46 mins ago













Thank you for the concise answer! And the next note does happen to be an E :)

– 286642
45 mins ago





Thank you for the concise answer! And the next note does happen to be an E :)

– 286642
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@replete you are correct; I updated my answer

– Shevliaskovic
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@replete you are correct; I updated my answer

– Shevliaskovic
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