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Marginalization of joint distribution



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I am trying to understand how you marginalise a joint distribution.



In my case I have a fair coin, $P(C) = frac12$ and a fair dice $P(D) = frac16$. I am told I win a prize if I flip the coin and it lands on Tails and if the outcome of the dice $= 1$. I am told at least one of them is correct.



$$Q = (textCoin = Tails or Dice = 1)$$



$$W = (textCoin = Tails and Dice = 1)$$



So if I wanted to work out the probability $W =$ True $| Q =$ True I can use marginalisation to work this out given the joint distribution:



$$P(C), P(D), P(Q|C,D), P(W|C,D)$$



I am just not sure where to start any help would be really appreciated. I am pretty new to this.



Thanks in advance.










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    I am trying to understand how you marginalise a joint distribution.



    In my case I have a fair coin, $P(C) = frac12$ and a fair dice $P(D) = frac16$. I am told I win a prize if I flip the coin and it lands on Tails and if the outcome of the dice $= 1$. I am told at least one of them is correct.



    $$Q = (textCoin = Tails or Dice = 1)$$



    $$W = (textCoin = Tails and Dice = 1)$$



    So if I wanted to work out the probability $W =$ True $| Q =$ True I can use marginalisation to work this out given the joint distribution:



    $$P(C), P(D), P(Q|C,D), P(W|C,D)$$



    I am just not sure where to start any help would be really appreciated. I am pretty new to this.



    Thanks in advance.










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      I am trying to understand how you marginalise a joint distribution.



      In my case I have a fair coin, $P(C) = frac12$ and a fair dice $P(D) = frac16$. I am told I win a prize if I flip the coin and it lands on Tails and if the outcome of the dice $= 1$. I am told at least one of them is correct.



      $$Q = (textCoin = Tails or Dice = 1)$$



      $$W = (textCoin = Tails and Dice = 1)$$



      So if I wanted to work out the probability $W =$ True $| Q =$ True I can use marginalisation to work this out given the joint distribution:



      $$P(C), P(D), P(Q|C,D), P(W|C,D)$$



      I am just not sure where to start any help would be really appreciated. I am pretty new to this.



      Thanks in advance.










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      I am trying to understand how you marginalise a joint distribution.



      In my case I have a fair coin, $P(C) = frac12$ and a fair dice $P(D) = frac16$. I am told I win a prize if I flip the coin and it lands on Tails and if the outcome of the dice $= 1$. I am told at least one of them is correct.



      $$Q = (textCoin = Tails or Dice = 1)$$



      $$W = (textCoin = Tails and Dice = 1)$$



      So if I wanted to work out the probability $W =$ True $| Q =$ True I can use marginalisation to work this out given the joint distribution:



      $$P(C), P(D), P(Q|C,D), P(W|C,D)$$



      I am just not sure where to start any help would be really appreciated. I am pretty new to this.



      Thanks in advance.







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          To solve the problem, we have to assume that there is the outcome of the dice and the outcome of the coins are independent.



          We let $C$ denotes the event that the coin lands on tail and $D$ be the event that the dice outcome is $1$.



          You have been given that the coin lands on tails or the dice lands on $1$, and you are interested in finding out that the coin lands on tails and the dice lands on $1$.



          You want to compute $P(W|Q)=fracP(Wcap Q)P(Q)=fracP(W)P(Q)=fracP(C)P(D)P(Q)$.



          To compute $P(Q)$ where $Q= C cup D$. You can either use $$P(Q)= P(C)+P(D)-P(Ccap D)$$



          or $$P(Q)=1-P(Q^c)=1-P(C^c cap D^c)$$



          Given all these formulas, hopefully you can solve for $P(W|Q)$.






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            Guide:



            To solve the problem, we have to assume that there is the outcome of the dice and the outcome of the coins are independent.



            We let $C$ denotes the event that the coin lands on tail and $D$ be the event that the dice outcome is $1$.



            You have been given that the coin lands on tails or the dice lands on $1$, and you are interested in finding out that the coin lands on tails and the dice lands on $1$.



            You want to compute $P(W|Q)=fracP(Wcap Q)P(Q)=fracP(W)P(Q)=fracP(C)P(D)P(Q)$.



            To compute $P(Q)$ where $Q= C cup D$. You can either use $$P(Q)= P(C)+P(D)-P(Ccap D)$$



            or $$P(Q)=1-P(Q^c)=1-P(C^c cap D^c)$$



            Given all these formulas, hopefully you can solve for $P(W|Q)$.






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              Guide:



              To solve the problem, we have to assume that there is the outcome of the dice and the outcome of the coins are independent.



              We let $C$ denotes the event that the coin lands on tail and $D$ be the event that the dice outcome is $1$.



              You have been given that the coin lands on tails or the dice lands on $1$, and you are interested in finding out that the coin lands on tails and the dice lands on $1$.



              You want to compute $P(W|Q)=fracP(Wcap Q)P(Q)=fracP(W)P(Q)=fracP(C)P(D)P(Q)$.



              To compute $P(Q)$ where $Q= C cup D$. You can either use $$P(Q)= P(C)+P(D)-P(Ccap D)$$



              or $$P(Q)=1-P(Q^c)=1-P(C^c cap D^c)$$



              Given all these formulas, hopefully you can solve for $P(W|Q)$.






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                Guide:



                To solve the problem, we have to assume that there is the outcome of the dice and the outcome of the coins are independent.



                We let $C$ denotes the event that the coin lands on tail and $D$ be the event that the dice outcome is $1$.



                You have been given that the coin lands on tails or the dice lands on $1$, and you are interested in finding out that the coin lands on tails and the dice lands on $1$.



                You want to compute $P(W|Q)=fracP(Wcap Q)P(Q)=fracP(W)P(Q)=fracP(C)P(D)P(Q)$.



                To compute $P(Q)$ where $Q= C cup D$. You can either use $$P(Q)= P(C)+P(D)-P(Ccap D)$$



                or $$P(Q)=1-P(Q^c)=1-P(C^c cap D^c)$$



                Given all these formulas, hopefully you can solve for $P(W|Q)$.






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                Guide:



                To solve the problem, we have to assume that there is the outcome of the dice and the outcome of the coins are independent.



                We let $C$ denotes the event that the coin lands on tail and $D$ be the event that the dice outcome is $1$.



                You have been given that the coin lands on tails or the dice lands on $1$, and you are interested in finding out that the coin lands on tails and the dice lands on $1$.



                You want to compute $P(W|Q)=fracP(Wcap Q)P(Q)=fracP(W)P(Q)=fracP(C)P(D)P(Q)$.



                To compute $P(Q)$ where $Q= C cup D$. You can either use $$P(Q)= P(C)+P(D)-P(Ccap D)$$



                or $$P(Q)=1-P(Q^c)=1-P(C^c cap D^c)$$



                Given all these formulas, hopefully you can solve for $P(W|Q)$.







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